Nov. 8, 2023

247: Golf Galore: Las Vegas Golf, Course Changes Conundrum, and the Struggles Golfers are having with NEW Golfers

Ever wondered why golf, food, and personal anecdotes make for a killer podcast episode? Well, join us on the green as we share our experiences from the Las Vegas golf scene, the King of the Green event, and our new partnership with The Golf Stop. This indoor facility is a golfer's paradise, with the latest gear and a café that has us debating over everything from cliff bars to Vienna sausages.

We're not just about the swing and the putt, we also dig into the nitty gritty of golf course changes and how they impact your game. Hear us as we talk about a peculiar bridge on Flamingo Road, gaming arcades at Red Rock Cinemas, and touch on the mouth-watering debate about the best E-Sandwiches. And yes, we might just be cooking up an article on the top ten public golf course sandwiches.

To wrap up our golf-themed journey, we pay our respects to Matty G, the beloved Las Vegas weatherman, and share hilarious anecdotes from our time at the National Golf Course. From discussions about the changing landscape of golf courses and local wildlife to nearly hitting a man with a golf ball, we've got stories that'll leave you in splits. We also shed light on the rise of 'mean golf', the importance of self-awareness within the sport, and a sneak peek into the upcoming Vegas Golf Network tournament. So, buckle up and get ready for a hole-in-one episode that's packed with laughs, food, and all things golf!

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Transcript
Speaker 1:

Hey, what is up everybody? Welcome to another episode of the chasing daylight podcast. Well, big golf weekend here in Vegas with the Vegas golf network, king of the green, the VG and invitation. A lot of Las Vegas national. We got a round in out of legacy, so there was a lot going on, we had a great time and we're going to be chatting about it. First off, I want to give some love to this place right here, the golf stop. You see, I'm repping the hat right now. It is a new indoor facility on the south side of Vegas. Sorry, joe, I will not refer to it as West Henderson ever again. Don't do that, don't do it. It's on the St Rose Parkway corridor, across from Costco, behind the McDonald's. It's a four bay indoor trackman facility with a small little cafe on the inside. They're partnering with us for a little while, so it's kind of like an official sponsor you could say. We're going to be scratching their back and letting everybody know about them. We're going to have some VG and stuff planned there as well, and so, if you are looking for a place to go play some indoor golf, a brand new facility, brand new screens, brand new monitors, new devices, and it's really modern. It's got a really nice modern take to it. Go check them out. Great crew. They're originally from St George, expanding down here Joe says he's looking at on their website. They're headed to Denver as well, but I've swung a lot in the studio there for over the last couple of days. It's a good place, good place.

Speaker 2:

So check it out. I was curious what kind of food offerings do they?

Speaker 1:

have. It's nothing crazy, it's not a full kitchen, it's small. It's like breakfast sandwiches, muffins, cookies type stuff, hot dogs Maybe, I don't know.

Speaker 2:

I have to get a picture of the menu and we'll throw it up so people can see, I was curious because I was looking at their website and I was trying to go to the menu and I was curious as to what it was. But if there's food offerings, I mean it's great.

Speaker 1:

Yeah yeah, they got a refrigerator drinks coffee. They've got Avalon meat. Candies got a rack in there which I got some of the candy decons.

Speaker 2:

They had some handles in there too for some bees.

Speaker 1:

Yep, yep, that's coming, just waiting to get all the things in place Licorice and Las Vegas. That's probably a whirlwind, it's a little bit easier than the gaming license, but still, yeah, still, it's still a little time it's coming. It's how you fellas doing. Today. Good Dan was telling about us or his escapades with his porcelain throne, so he was MIA over the weekend. You feeling a little better? You don't need to bring in some.

Speaker 4:

Gatorade Just barely a little bit better. But yeah, the last few days have been a fucking nightmare. That's no fun.

Speaker 2:

I mean I had that a couple of weeks ago, so might be some going around Might not have been the food.

Speaker 4:

It's a Mexican food bug.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, well, we all know that I eat a lot of Mexican food, so yeah, Bean and cheese.

Speaker 1:

That's all you got to tell him. Food boys are at the same time I was ordering.

Speaker 2:

I was going to order us dinner off of Ubreeds this evening and I was looking for the deals because there's deals, right, and that's the first spot I go. If there's no deals, I'm not taking it. Anybody knows me, I'm a sucker for the deals. But there's a bean and cheese quesadilla at Revis which I was kind of like, hey, I'm going to have to get this at some point.

Speaker 5:

Have you been to Revis before?

Speaker 2:

It's been a long time, very long time, but a bean and cheese quesadilla sounds spectacular to me because I'm a sucker for the B and C. But a, b and C, b and CQ. I've never heard of that before. B and CQ.

Speaker 1:

What was? What was Katie telling me that you're finicky about that you don't eat? What word.

Speaker 2:

What was it yeah?

Speaker 3:

So, vegetables.

Speaker 1:

No, no, it was chicken wing. No, you guys Meatballs, that's what it was.

Speaker 2:

You guys fed it into her, like because she's very picky with food, right, but there's a few things I can't eat and it's like overly processed meat which is like frozen meatballs or like canned chili. I can't eat that shit because it f**ks with my throat a little bit. Like it, like you know, I get it all.

Speaker 1:

And we were all looking at Joe like what AK is going.

Speaker 2:

thank you, Thank you, yeah, you guys yeah you guys f**ked me on that, like there's there's a few things I can't eat and it's like overly processed f**king meat and cliff bars. I can't eat cliff bars.

Speaker 5:

So no Vienna sausages.

Speaker 2:

I can do Vienna sausages yes.

Speaker 5:

I can do.

Speaker 2:

Vienna. Yeah, I can do spam.

Speaker 4:

What about hot dogs? Isn't that? Over the process meat, then you're fine, but I don't know if I don't know if it's like canned or if it's like certain Euro meats.

Speaker 2:

I can't do, I don't know.

Speaker 3:

I don't know what it is I don't know what it is Interesting.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, canned chili, like certain Euro meats I can do. I can do some of them or like the old generic, I'll chili beans just reg.

Speaker 1:

Joe for the rest of his life, and for sure, all cliff bars.

Speaker 2:

I can't eat cliff bars because they f**k.

Speaker 1:

I can't, I can't do cliff bar, have you have you looked at the ingredients to see what's in it, to maybe figure out? I've tried, but nothing.

Speaker 2:

None of it makes sense to me. It's like I've thought it was like soy, but it's. I can eat like edamame and I can eat like soy burgers if I need to, or like like jack in the box tacos I can eat those are made of soy meat, but I don't know. It's got to be some sort of like they are.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, wow.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, learn something every day.

Speaker 4:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Yeah yeah, you guys fed way too deep into that and it wasn't really anything.

Speaker 1:

Oh, I loved it. I thought it was hilarious. She was like finally somebody understands what I have to go through.

Speaker 2:

Oh, yeah, and yeah, and I'm going. What do you want to eat for dinner? I don't know. Okay, bean and cheese no. Quesadilla no.

Speaker 1:

Bean and cheese Quesadilla no. How about a bean and cheese Quesadilla chili with meatballs in it. Oh okay, so we are a golf podcast.

Speaker 3:

I swear.

Speaker 1:

We're going to talk about golf here in just a minute. So the king of the green event, dan you, you missed out on that too, man you got called in to work Thanks to the stupid copper thieves, Tweakers. God man, Just leave the shit alone. It's not yours. All right, Good method. People are trying to have fun and you're ruining it for everybody. So we that took place Thursday night and let me tell you I was beyond thrilled with how everything turned out.

Speaker 2:

Turned out really good.

Speaker 1:

Everybody, I think, had a really good time. I had more than one person come up to me and say this is awesome. I think the course being, you know, like, like I said, it's, it's not about making the four foot putt, it's about the 40 foot putt to get to the four foot putt. Yeah, yeah, that is the adventure that makes it exciting. The bunkers there's. They were crazy, some of the. You know, if you don't hit the right spot, you're in the water. We had some Jason Burnett with Drew because he ran out of golf balls.

Speaker 2:

I brought one golf ball and I first time around. I mean, I only made it one time around, but I put a ball in the water.

Speaker 3:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

I told.

Speaker 1:

I brought a bag of balls just in case somebody didn't have any and I was on Plummer as it. Yeah, there's, there's some pink ones in there, there's some chromatic, sparkly ones, and I think there's one with a bunch of dicks drawn on it.

Speaker 2:

Well, thankfully, like I lost the ball in the water and I saw Burnett on the other hole across from us, I said, hey, do you have another ball? I just put it in the water. He's like I got one for you. So he threw me one. And then I was playing with Matt Boyd and he said, oh, I have one. So I threw it back to Jason Burnett, so thankfully he might have had to withdraw earlier. Yeah, it was.

Speaker 1:

It was a good time. Hats off to Alexander for you know, making his way through the field, new daddy, him and his fiancee had a baby, a couple, about a week and a half, almost a week ago, so that was awesome for him to get that win. He said he came home and his, his daughter, heard him come in and he said he walked in like stone cold with the belt. Nice, she was excited about that. But overall I think it was good. The food was really good. I don't know if, jeremy, did you eat anything? Oh, you weren't there. What am I talking about?

Speaker 5:

No, I didn't eat.

Speaker 2:

Did you?

Speaker 1:

did you eat the chicken wings?

Speaker 2:

No food was not provided to us.

Speaker 3:

So shut up.

Speaker 4:

Was there? Banan cheese is there.

Speaker 2:

No, so by the time we got there, everybody ate all the chicken wings, and then there was only meatballs left, which is how the whole ball thing came about. So I took one bite of the meatball and I was like can't do it because I just I know that feeling. And yeah, I had a plate of four meatballs. I had a half, a bite of one and Katie had three and a half, and I go. I go hey, is there any more chicken wings coming out? And they're like no, matt didn't pay for more chicken wings.

Speaker 1:

Oh God, that is so wrong. That is not what happened at all.

Speaker 2:

They're like Matthew Wayne, wayne Wayne and Yatt, wayne and Yatt for more chicken wings.

Speaker 4:

Joe were they? Were they worse than the chickpea meatballs that we had with?

Speaker 2:

I'd prefer the chicken meatballs. I would, yeah, I'd rather go eat those chickpea meatballs.

Speaker 1:

Are you serious? Those chicken wings were bomb. Oh my God.

Speaker 4:

I never had my, ever had my life.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. I was blown away with how good the chicken wings were.

Speaker 2:

Remember when we were in Washington I said I do, I can't eat some of this stuff, potentially because it'll fuck with my throat, it like inflames my throat. So, joe, I got through that at the vegan restaurant with Bobby and I can't do the meatballs, the meatballs trash, I can go. I can go vegan nachos at that spot in Washington over the meatballs at Angle. Park any day, but that's just. You know, there's something allergic going on.

Speaker 1:

All right. So, joe, would you how that, how that event went, would you change anything about it? Or do you think we could run another one like that and have just like kind of like the same outcome?

Speaker 2:

I would have got there earlier, you know. But other than that, no, I think it was great with the traffic from the other side. I think it was a little early, you know, and I know it ran much quicker than we all thought it was going to, oh my God. So a later start would have been better, I think, especially with the traffic that's going on with F1 and the 15.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, we could. We could have definitely started at seven. Yeah.

Speaker 3:

I think that would have been much better.

Speaker 1:

Julie and I finished our first match in like nine minutes.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it was very quick. So yeah, we had a lot of traffic. It took me like 50 minutes together from our house. I think the 215 around. Yeah, well, that's what I did and it was just it was screwed. So I showed up trying to get that speaker and that microphone set up and then then cats like you're on your own, so I didn't get any chance to warm up.

Speaker 1:

But big, big shout out to her. She rocked. Yeah, she was a huge help. A cat from the SNGA is also Julian's girlfriend. She came with him and helped me make sure everybody got off on time, because I got the first draw and huge, huge help that was.

Speaker 2:

I think I asked her. I was like, can someone go before me because I'm trying to set this up and she's like nope time to go. So she did a good job.

Speaker 1:

That's what she does, though, I mean yeah, I know she was like oh, this is easy, she goes, you got two minutes or you're getting a two stroke penalty. Yeah, yeah, so no.

Speaker 2:

I think, I think we are you or us or whatever anticipated it being taking way too much time and it just went really quick.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, so because Plummer was like 10 minutes before his start time and and we're like you need to go, you need to go because it's not even like. I don't care Go.

Speaker 2:

It was a lot of fun, I think out of Angel Park. I mean, if you're not familiar with the mini putting courts, the holes are bigger I think I think it was great. I mean, I don't think the larger holes played a big role in the situation. They might have played a different kind of thing because the ball could bounce out, which happened in a few people, I know.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it happened to Julian once and and. I saw it happen to a couple other people and then I found out people were pulling the pins and I was like, oh wait, no, don't pull the leaves, leave that in, because that little little disc around the base of that that and actually makes it a little bit harder to get it in the cup.

Speaker 2:

True, yeah, and I haven't played that. I haven't played that many putt course, and since I was like probably eight years old, so it's probably been like 30 years, and the holes are not easy, they're not easy.

Speaker 1:

No, I mean, the best score was an 18. And nobody else shot. In the teams there was a handful of 21s and I think there was five hole in ones on the night, and that's.

Speaker 4:

That's a lot of rounds of yeah, yeah, just nine holes. Yeah, just nine holes.

Speaker 2:

I think it could be lit in a few more areas, which would be nice, but yeah, down by the water especially. Yeah, it's a fun spot. You know I'm looking forward to taking Theo up there one of these days, but yeah, it was a really good time. I think it turned out really well.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, by far our best turnout for King of the Green event. Yeah, and yeah, I'm looking forward to the next one that we have, so we'll work on that for 2024. A legacy so Jeremy, myself, favs and Jeremy's dad played legacy on Friday and some good news coming out of legacy. Jeremy, you want to, you want to give your take on on what happened.

Speaker 5:

Yeah, I mean it was good when we played it in BGN in the summer, but I think it's, I think it's getting better. I think the greens were a little slow, but I they just haven't really cut them. I think they're just sort of letting them grow, and they overseeded the fairways and teas, right, yeah, okay. So yeah, which is not something they've done for the last few years.

Speaker 1:

I don't think they've had the budget or the care to do it, because the course was in such limbo.

Speaker 5:

So I mean everything looked really good. It's, it was super. You know it was a little moist. I mean the mud balls almost on every tee shot, no roll out. Yeah. Yeah, Everything was good, though, Like the pace of play was fine. Some weird stuff happened on 18 when we were waiting to tee off, but I'm gonna get to that later, so yeah, yeah, but yeah, course was good. I'm excited. My dad really loved that course and I actually really like it. I the first few times I played it, I think I played with Joe and it was dormant. The whole thing was dormant Both times and so being able to play it the last couple of times when it's you know you can hold a green, you can hold a fairway, it's it's really good. I love that course and it has a lot of really good holes.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, we, we got a good preview of what they're trying to do. The 18th green it had a lot of new sand in the bunkers. I don't, I think it's just a top dressing. Honestly, you know, I'll talk with them and find out a little bit more what the plan is. I don't know if it was like somebody came out and said, hey, this is what we can do and showed them, because I, on my approach, shot. I came up short and was in the front bunker and I'm like, holy crap, this is the nicest part. This one doesn't have any weeds in it. It's only only bucker we saw all day that didn't have any weeds in it and it was nice fluffy sand and I hit the ball and and it was just top coating, it was hard pan, you know, the half inch underneath that. So I'm not exactly sure what the plan is, but I'm going to talk to them more and find out. But it was nice to see a lot of more green on that course than we've seen in a long time.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, I'm looking to see in the second green froze over here in a couple months. It's gonna be fun.

Speaker 1:

The Luge the Luge I did.

Speaker 2:

I did hear a rumor, which you have not mentioned or anything like that, that it is, there's potential talks where it could become the home practice place of the VGN. Yes, yep.

Speaker 1:

Yep, we're, we're in negotiations for legacy to be the official home course of the Vegas golf network and open up the areas there for our members to have some practice time. And you know, we'll work out maybe discounts down the road, but right now I just, I just would like us to be able to establish a home club that I think it'd be great.

Speaker 2:

Like if you, if you show up on a Thursday, you might just go to the home club and like, if you, if you show up on a Thursday, you might just run into somebody, you know, like after work or something like that. And I think it's a great idea.

Speaker 1:

I mean I want, I've obviously I wanted to do it review because that's close and I think the practice areas there are great because you've got a wide variety to putting greens, to chip in areas and all grass range. That's large, the now that they got the more head grill out there and the ball machine, you don't have to deal with the pro shop. It's not easy for everybody to get up there, you know it's it's not exactly close. At least with legacy it's off the freeway, you know, so it would be an easier trip for people to. You know, hey, you can plan your day around. I'm going to be over that side, I'll stop in his balls. So hopefully we can make that happen and and having an official homestead for 2024 and going forward.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

I still be great. Yeah, did you hear the other rumor before we get to national?

Speaker 2:

I mean, there's a lot of rumors. Oh, you got any good ones?

Speaker 1:

No, oh, so we rumored it last week and it turns out it's true. Live golf is coming to Las Vegas Country Club. They signed a five year contract. Yeah, signed a five year contract with them, so the Super Bowl weekend live tournament is going to be at the Las Vegas Country Club. Yeah, super Bowl weekend, yeah.

Speaker 4:

Right. Shit show Absolute shit show. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Don't come. At least F1 has money to clean up. Yeah, the NFL is going to be like thanks Vegas, See you later.

Speaker 2:

Later. Can't wait to see Bryson the Shambow fucking lighten the torch or some bullshit like that.

Speaker 1:

I don't even say that hey, hey, I want to be Bryson, like striking a match off Bill's calves. I want to give Bryson some credit. Okay, we know I've been not shitting on the live, but just not being a fan of it and the people. But, bryson, I posted something on our Instagram and it was about his name for the new facility under par life and he actually commented on it. And see if I can bring this up here, real quick.

Speaker 2:

He's pretty good, like if you, if you tag him in something that's kind of like he's gonna see he's gonna say something. He's gonna say something if it like offends him in some way or if it like boast him in some way, because he's responded to me before too.

Speaker 1:

So this is what he said it's, it's the, it's the parent company, not going to be the actual name. So I mean it was. I was kind of surprised that he actually chimed in but, like I said, you know he, he can't leave that stuff alone at times. So yeah, he can't.

Speaker 2:

I feel like he's on this phone like way more than we would think he would be.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. So hey, he could have bashed us, he could have talked shit, he could have said something, but he thought it was funny and said that's not the name, that's the parent company.

Speaker 2:

He shared it.

Speaker 1:

That's what he should have done, right with everybody, help, help a podcast out, bryson, come on. So I'm curious to what is going to happen with the range, because we heard that they're going to be shuttling people to National, which we'll see how that works.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, the ranging going to work for them, it's not, it's not a long course.

Speaker 1:

It's kind of tight, but not tight.

Speaker 2:

The greens are small, I will be watching as much as I possibly can.

Speaker 1:

Oh, absolutely See that course on TV.

Speaker 2:

It hasn't happened since I love that.

Speaker 1:

God, I think the LPGA was there forever ago.

Speaker 5:

They're going to shuttle people to National.

Speaker 1:

That's the rumor, yeah.

Speaker 5:

That is so odd. I mean, I don't there's not another option, but it's like not nationals.

Speaker 2:

I mean that huge of a.

Speaker 1:

No, they're just going to hit it out of that way in Valley.

Speaker 2:

High.

Speaker 5:

I wonder if they'll put up a net in the back, because those guys are just going to hit it into the houses behind the range.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, I only got eight, eighth T box.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, if I'm not mistaken, if isn't there some room behind where the current team area is for that range at the Vegas Country Club? They have like an awning there, right?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, but it's all. It's a lot of concrete there, I think.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, there's a, there's an event center Right directly behind it. Yeah, there's a building right there and then the open space before that other event center.

Speaker 4:

Oh OK, I was going to say because if they knock out some of that open space, you know they can extend that range. But I didn't realize I'll just just do what I mean.

Speaker 1:

They got the Saudi money. Just do what F1 does build a bridge over D? I and extend the range and enclose it.

Speaker 5:

Have you guys driven on that bridge on? Is it flamingo? Oh my gosh, you've driven on it. I drove on it the other day, wow.

Speaker 1:

Wow that was janky. I will. I have janky. You've not gone anywhere near that area it was great.

Speaker 5:

There's like angles, it's not. It's not like round, it's like straight, it's like someone like, designed it on Minecraft, the protractor arcade game with the four steering wheels.

Speaker 2:

Remember that. That's what it looks like to me.

Speaker 5:

Yeah, that's what it felt like.

Speaker 2:

You spin it like this and it's like you know the off road game and it was like red, blue, yellow and whatever. That game was tight. I used to go there at Red Rock cinemas and play that game all day.

Speaker 1:

It's an erector set.

Speaker 2:

It's a life size, but yeah, it looks super like old school Nintendo bridge.

Speaker 1:

Yeah it's. I can't believe they're having that much traffic go over it too.

Speaker 2:

I really feel bad for that AMPM.

Speaker 3:

Oh, that dude's getting.

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah.

Speaker 1:

Oh and and rumors are they have not done anything for him.

Speaker 2:

No, yeah, I saw it on the news and even Ellis Island probably just getting killed too. There's a lot of businesses that are not are not doing well they have portes of right there in the corner, and that's thanks to the West end like portes of shit, the AMPMs had gas and that in this in his yeah, hasn't been refilled in a while.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and he's like fuck, I paid so much for this gas. And gas is going down now.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, dude, the portes of zone are over. There is getting racked up and portes of makes a great sub, you know.

Speaker 4:

Yes, I do, number five killer number 18 killer.

Speaker 2:

Number 13 killer Guys, little male mustard combo.

Speaker 4:

We're just connoisseurs of the East sandwich.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, a lot of sampling.

Speaker 4:

Sure.

Speaker 2:

It's, you know, research.

Speaker 4:

It's research In and out of emergency sandwich.

Speaker 2:

We're going to get a. We're going to be able to write our article one day and, like golf digest and top 10 East sand, I was yeah top 10 public golf course sandwiches yeah. One of these days.

Speaker 1:

Okay, so before we get into national, let's take a break and bring in Maddie G. Hi, this is not Matt Gontaric. I didn't do my job for the chasing daylight podcast this week, so Matt's going to fill in for me here. It's windy as hell, it's dusty and it's going to be like this for a couple of days. Thank you All right.

Speaker 5:

Thanks, matt, no problem Managee.

Speaker 1:

Hell, yeah, yeah, sorry, no, I think he was a little busy today, so I think you should stick to your day job.

Speaker 5:

Yeah, I'm not, yeah, you suck.

Speaker 2:

Not a winner. Managee's way better than you. All right, joe, here you go, you can try it. Go, yo. This is Matt Gaunteric, fox 5, las Vegas. Thanks for tuning in to the Chasing Daylight Podcast. This past weekend over at Las Vegas National. It was a great day, everybody. We had really fantastic weather, the winds being brought back into the valley and the dust might settle up into your dome piece, but we are on track to get into the winter months. And thanks for tuning in to the Chasing Daylight Podcast. This is Mattagee, fox 5, las Vegas, your local Las Vegas news channel.

Speaker 3:

I'm going to do a dozen of lips moving. You can do the news for sure, Joe.

Speaker 1:

He's never going to do that for us again.

Speaker 3:

Never.

Speaker 1:

Last week was probably the last one He'll never do for us.

Speaker 2:

I guarantee you Matt has never said dome piece on the news.

Speaker 1:

No no, that's pretty much guaranteed.

Speaker 4:

Some terminology they leave out. Hey, matt, is it like I, specifically, when I go down here?

Speaker 1:

we're going to not go with that, OK.

Speaker 2:

I try to, specifically when I go to sleep, like leave it on Fox 5, so I wake up to Mattagee. So I know the weather because I know he's accurate, one of the best weathermen in the game. I know he does the traffic now too. Well, ken's on vacation. Yeah, he called out this morning or vacation or whatever, but he does really good with the traffic too. So shout out Mattagee.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, it was a funny professional.

Speaker 1:

He did. He was doing some northern northern Clark County and Lincoln stuff and he's like, and Pioche and Pnok and Calliente had. I sent him a text. I'm like, dude, you nailed it. He's like I was so nervous.

Speaker 5:

Yeah, you know, he practiced that.

Speaker 1:

Oh, yeah, for sure. Okay, so national Joe. Joe gave us a little teaser in his weather about national. It was course was a great shape, just as well as I was expecting it to. Green for rolling, fantastic. I had a little issue out of a couple bunkers, but that was more me than the course. Me not playing to the conditions and just trying to play my game. I was pretty happy with everything. When I don't think we could have got a better day, yeah, we're not getting any more of those.

Speaker 2:

I'm gonna get many more of those until March probably.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it's, it was spectacular. There was no wind. Overcast courses in great shape they do. They do have to fix the geese on 13.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it did, so I don't remember that problem there. No the geese. I wonder if. I wonder if.

Speaker 1:

Darden is driven them all from Angel Park. They're going there.

Speaker 2:

Pebbles, pebbles, out there chasing away.

Speaker 1:

I never remember there being that many no there, so I don't know if it's just an influx of Canadian geese right now or if desert pines is finally decided to not make it a breeding ground for them.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 1:

It was different.

Speaker 2:

I don't think I've ever experienced that at national.

Speaker 1:

We were driving off the the 15th T box and there was some behind the 14th green, over by the car path, and as we drove by, it just walked right out in front of our car and I was like smacked it, what the hell is he doing? It just it was just like walking and like kind of like jumped like to take off and I was like good Lord, yeah, one thing that was was not new to me, though that I have experienced out.

Speaker 2:

there is the homeless thing off of dude Number 12, just hacking up a fucking lung.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, we didn't hear him, but Sean told me he's like hey, look out for the.

Speaker 2:

Natty mascot over there on the new logo coming soon. Bro, it's like the.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, the guy but yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

Speaker 5:

Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

Speaker 5:

Yeah. Maybe they can pay him to get the geese out of there on 14. Oh 13.

Speaker 2:

There is a, there is a job there, and I mean that guy might be able to just hack him out of there. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1:

I think just walking by them would scare their shit out of him because dude was rough Right before.

Speaker 2:

So that's that's the hole that Freddie couples almost drove the green on right now.

Speaker 1:

He didn't almost drive the green Joe. Oh, that's the one, oh, that's the one.

Speaker 4:

Cut the corner.

Speaker 2:

No, that's, that's 15. No, he turned it over, left handed. Yeah, he was up against the fence and then he hit the green and regulation, something like that.

Speaker 1:

Yes.

Speaker 2:

Okay. So when we were up there I was playing with the chat himself and he's like aren't all these houses crack houses, no some of them are like sorority or fraternity houses. You know there's some businesses over here, you know we're on Eastern and then no one. Behold, like I turned my head and there's just a dude fucking hack and and I'm like I guess they are all crack houses now.

Speaker 1:

Dude was grizzled. No bed, said Steve Jackson had a chip like three feet from them.

Speaker 5:

I was on that side too, and I didn't see him. Maybe he was still asleep when we went through there, because I didn't notice him at all.

Speaker 1:

Dude, I had a beautiful shot into that green after a drop in a hit tree and if it would have been just a little left it would have hit him.

Speaker 2:

So I'm very glad that that that was on the flag and not left of it, because wow, it literally sounded like he had swallowed some fucking quater flip flaps and he was just trying to get him out of his throat or something he was eating some heavily processed meatballs. There's a shit ton of cliff bars.

Speaker 1:

Angel Park meatballs are trash. You never.

Speaker 5:

There's always a surprise at National though. I'm pretty sure we heard a drive by shooting when we were like on hold to.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, jeremy threw up a gun to me and I thought I I'm not going to go into it, but I thought it was something else. Oh, yeah, yeah. Everything was good there.

Speaker 5:

But I love National, so good Course is amazing. It's such good.

Speaker 2:

It experiences out there History and experiences Yep. Golf and a show and no.

Speaker 1:

OJ sighting either. Not surprised, yeah, thought we'd see OJ yeah.

Speaker 3:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

All right. So the VGN regular season has wrapped up. We now move into the finals, which is a two day event that takes place at Revere. Saturday is going to be a shotgun on the Concorde course and then Sunday we will do the pairings based on the standings and and are based on the how the play from Saturday went, and we will determine our winner after that. I got the trophies ordered from a squid squid design and they should be here in a couple of weeks. They're going to be pretty sick. And yeah, you got 40 people, 10 people from 10 players from each flight.

Speaker 2:

Did you end up making it?

Speaker 1:

No.

Speaker 2:

No.

Speaker 1:

I'm, I'm not going to make it, man. And if Favalora was?

Speaker 5:

wondering if you were going to be upset that he got in. He snuck in there.

Speaker 1:

Oh no, I want everybody to make it. But you know, hey, if you don't, I'm going to revert back to play better.

Speaker 2:

So here's what are you going to do. What are you going to do? Are you just going to hang out at the clubhouse?

Speaker 1:

I'm going to be more of a media mogul and take a bunch of video and film everybody.

Speaker 2:

Let's go buy a drone for Matt. Get some content and you know, hey, why pay for it when you can shoot it yourself? Yeah. So it may not be the best, my whole philosophy all day at National was just beat, matt, that's what I thought I had to do. I beat myself. No, I thought you had me on that front line, but well, I'm sorry.

Speaker 1:

After I, after I saw how bad you played on the front, I'm like holy crap. But I was too far back. And then you know I I hit a great shot on 10. Good approach, good chip. Just burn the edge. Then I hit it to three feet on 11, won the CTP and I get up to 12 and I hadn't hit a ball right all day long and put it in the water.

Speaker 2:

I did have one question for you. Did you intentionally on hole number 13, not the pin all the way in, thinking I was going to hold out because it was cocky? It wasn't all the way in. It was like the pin was like maybe 50 percent in and it was like leaning and I saw you put the pin in.

Speaker 1:

No, I would never do that, all right. I'm just curious because I, if I did it, I'm right Tell you because I got caught. No, I'm not sabotage me, no.

Speaker 2:

So after that I was just. Every shot I hit was a fuck match. I thought you were trying to sabotage me.

Speaker 1:

No, no, dude, I had no chance at sabotage, because even if you, even if you would have played bad it was literally.

Speaker 2:

it was like this I don't remember that. And you put it in and watched you.

Speaker 3:

OK.

Speaker 2:

Just, I'm just. If you didn't do it intentionally, that's not.

Speaker 1:

I was there All right, that's a good guy. There's three other people in the group that I care about, so thanks, dad.

Speaker 2:

Oh man, so you're trying to sabotage me.

Speaker 1:

So did I. I hope you know what I'm going to save that for. Well, yeah, I'll save that for the next one. So the the email invites went out to all the players today. I teased a little extra 100 bucks to the first place prize for whatever flight gets all their entry fees paid first. So if you want to check the status on who's paid what, check discord, you can see Joe actually paid it was I the first to pay?

Speaker 2:

Was I the first God?

Speaker 1:

No, I had people pay in September.

Speaker 2:

Dude Jesus, come on oh yeah, well, I didn't know I was in.

Speaker 1:

I know you paid one of the quickest of the people that made it, but would he be?

Speaker 2:

a couple of hours. That's a hundred dollars, then Right.

Speaker 1:

No, no, I said the first flight were all 10 people are paid. So, all right, got some work to do. That's more to do, well, I paid off my credit card.

Speaker 2:

So you said get out your credit cards. I was like I paid it off though. All right, I'll break out my credit card.

Speaker 1:

Nice.

Speaker 2:

Now the side money games. You're going to have to wait till the but.

Speaker 1:

Well, now I can. I can collect the cash day of because I'm not fucking playing. So no, I'm worried about that. But hey, speaking of pulling out your credit card, if you have not entered our so high raffle, that is going to take place one week from today, so get on it. We've plenty of plenty of opportunities to to chime in on this, the raffle tickets are in right now.

Speaker 2:

Twenty twenty.

Speaker 1:

Oh, I got to look it's not a lot, it's.

Speaker 2:

There's a good shot at it, though that's a thing, there's a damn good shot.

Speaker 1:

Let me see. Let me pull it up real quick.

Speaker 2:

We wrote in the raffle $20.

Speaker 1:

Twenty five right now Twenty five.

Speaker 2:

So currently you have a one in 25 shot to play, so high for two for the amount that you play for the raffle.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's 20 bucks. I'll say it Good save, yeah. So I'm going to be posting tomorrow or when you actually just check out live on the show next. But next, next Monday, live on YouTube. I'm going to pull up the wheel that picks and we'll select, you know, one winner that's going to join us. You have not gotten in that and Stephen Jackson would played it today. I don't know if you saw that you play with Derek England.

Speaker 2:

I did not see that.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, right, so he was out there today. On Sunday he was like dude, this place is. And he played it in that ridiculous win today and he was still like, wow, this place is amazing. I cannot wait to win the raffle and play with you guys again. So get in on it. Get in on it and come hang with us. That's. That's a month away.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, can't wait coming up quick. Yeah, it's a month, I'm here All right.

Speaker 1:

So VGN finals yeah, $1,000. First place for the player of the year in each flight. So killer trophy $1,000, a side perk for making the finals If you win your flight and win the tournament not the player of the year, but the golf tournament, like yeah, even Jackson with the DE.

Speaker 2:

Vegas strong right there, give her man. Yeah, vegas strong.

Speaker 1:

So, like someone like Joe, let's say, he wins the tournament but doesn't get enough points to beat the first place guy, he will win a free membership in two next year. So there's four of those up for grab as well.

Speaker 2:

And it's a two day, and it's a two day.

Speaker 1:

You're going to play good to the door. Play good two days in a row and two very different golf courses.

Speaker 2:

Somewhat OK one day, and then really good one day.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, somebody could go on Concord and light it up and then go to legacy and go holy crap.

Speaker 2:

Rough as thick as fuck.

Speaker 1:

This is not what we played yesterday at all. Yeah, so that that will be fun because that be adaptable, the bombers will have fun at Concord. Yeah the big hitters can light that place up.

Speaker 2:

You know that's called. It's called Ninja golf because ninjas adapted their surroundings, and that's what that is.

Speaker 1:

OK, you coined a new phrase.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so golf. Yeah, it's like going from Wingfoot one day to Bannon dunes the next day and then we're Lexington, it Revere. I mean they're different types of golf courses and you need to be able to hit that's the first time ever in the history of life.

Speaker 1:

Wingfoot, Bannon and Revere have been mentioned in the same sentence.

Speaker 5:

Yeah, the trifecta trifecta.

Speaker 2:

I'm just saying, man, it's you know, you need to be able to hit those certain shots and that's why the people that play one course all the fucking time in their country club members and they play the same thing and they shoot 79 all the time and they go somewhere else and shoot 95 in their piss. You need to be adaptable like a ninja. Be water, my friend, be water, a water ninja, well, none. Well, I mean, they're all encompassing, but ninjas adapt like water is what I was saying.

Speaker 1:

All right, so I'm going to I'm going to move on to this. I I thought this. This took place on Friday out at Lexington or at Legacy, and I posted it. You guys are going to be able to hear it, but I can just tell you what it says or what it is. I was having just a little bit of issues with the goddamn parking break on the golf cart. Have you guys ever had this happen where the parking break, just will not engage oh yeah, right, of course, of course. It's the most, one of the most annoying things in the world and this is the kind of shithead you get on on top Right President, the bottom has first finished with the top Grace falling there. Push on the left side of the brake clown Bro doesn't know how to put the parking brake on. Got to be 10 percent smarter than what you're fucking with. 10 percent is more zero than zero is is more than zero, is still zero. So, yeah, a lot of people hating on me for a faulty parking.

Speaker 2:

Here's. Here's the thing with the faulty parking break. It's like you got it. You got to swing smooth, swing easy when it's breezy. Right, you just got to be at a clip, that thing real, smooth and then I'll click that time right there that I recorded that was the fastest.

Speaker 1:

It engaged all day and I was doing soft, I was doing slow. I found out I'm like, oh, if you push it and hear the click and then if you give, push softer, and then you hear the other click and then you let go, then it'll engage and I'm like, fuck this, I shouldn't have to have a tree code turns into a hardcore song.

Speaker 5:

Well, there was a couple of times where we did it and it would. It would unclick, and then the cart started rolling backwards.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I mean they're older carts and that's what I loved. Yesterday at National they got the carts with auto breaks, which every golf cart. That should be like a federal requirement. Now you have a golf cart, you need auto breaks? Yeah, because it is. It is absolutely ridiculous. So I thought that was funny, but it's. It just shows you that the amount of net people on social media that have no clue what they're talking about whatsoever, Because anybody that's a golfer that's why that got so many likes that it did, because so many golfers are like yes, that is annoying.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, experiences it. Yeah, everyone has experienced that in their their golf life.

Speaker 1:

Okay, so Jeremy and I had a scenario take place at Legacy and then I had something take place at National and I think, jeremy, you even said it before that happened that we need to create a social media account for to stop growing the game and and stop the new golfers from playing golf.

Speaker 2:

Because I know there's a lot of supporters behind that.

Speaker 1:

Oh dude it is. It is getting ridiculous. So we're we're playing Legacy, we're on the 17th hole and we're you know how the little section of the cart path goes down to the 17th green. It's that little circle, yeah, yeah, right. So we're, we're down there and a cart comes by and stops and is looking at us and then goes on to the 18th T box and we're like they're not jumping ahead because there's two slow ass groups in front of us. I don't know what they're thinking. So we leave our, you know, we leave the 17th, head over to the 18th and they're, they're parked like off to the side and like what the hell's going on. And then they leave. They didn't say anything, they go back to the 17th hole and so we're waiting for the people to hit. Jeremy hits, I hit, and then here comes the card again and Jeremy's dad was playing up a box and so he's on the T and the guy's girl is like passed out or heat exhaustion or something she's laying down in his lap, and they start driving up a little cart down and and Jeremy's dad is like addressing the ball and getting ready to swing and they just kept on driving right in front of them and he backs away and Jeremy's like what the hell are you doing? They just completely oblivious to the world that we were playing golf and just drove down the course.

Speaker 5:

Like as slow as they possibly could to it wasn't like we're going to hurry and get out of your way because we're not going to wait anymore. It was like the slowest speed you could go and still move. It was the most annoying thing ever.

Speaker 1:

So damn weird. I'd never seen anything like that before and I don't know it, just it, just I know it rubbed Jeremy wrong and Faus was like he was, he was pissed.

Speaker 2:

I feel like we might be saying like an influx of like mean, mean golf. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, do it for the clicks kind of thing. Yeah, and and people bringing it to the course.

Speaker 1:

It made no sense why and and then. So, when we were putting our get our check.

Speaker 2:

Have you checked the mean golf accounts yet to see if that was recorded?

Speaker 5:

because we could all these angry white men yelling at us while we're driving.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I could believe that.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 5:

It's rich white men.

Speaker 1:

We get up to the clubhouse and we're taking our clubs off the bag and the he's sitting in the chair with and his girls got her head down on the table and as we walk by he's saying to her he goes oh, you'll do better next time. And so it was just an odd situation, but it was complete, you know, self awareness. They had no, no clue that they were like doing something so wrong, and it was. They were just oblivious to it. It was, it was wild.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I mean, I think that relates to the broader scope of the world, like self awareness is at an all time low, I think. But you know, and that that's like what we, we're, we talked about, we've talked about it many times is grow the game, grow the great, grow the game, but educate, teach them, educate and self awareness.

Speaker 1:

And the other thing that happened to me at National was it was on the 18th hole. I hit my approach, shot into the right bunker, the right green side bunker, and it was a high seven iron and green side bunker or the bunker that's green side bunker.

Speaker 2:

If you're bomber, this guy Hammer town and.

Speaker 4:

Hammer town.

Speaker 1:

I get up there and it's it's Friday and I'm like, ah shit. But then I look and there was like deep footprints in the bunker, like where you can see where the person walked in, hit their ball and walked out. And first off, I was pissed because there was four groups in front of us that were with the VGN and it's the gross guys. And I was like I sure as hope there's not somebody in those groups that is leaving a bunker like that, because I will find out who you were and I will hand you your walking papers immediately, because that is fucking bullshit. But what? What was terrible was the ball wasn't in a fried egg. It was in a fried egg that was in a hole, and I couldn't explain it and and even Kyle Peterson is like he looked at it and he goes, what the hell is that? And I'm like I have no idea. So I was, I was looking at the other footprints, like trying to see if it was a footprint, but it was too deep and so I was trying to figure out what the hell it was and the only thing that I could think of is the person like used the end of the rake to push themselves out of the bunker and my ball fried egg in that hole. Nice, and I was, but I couldn't. I couldn't. There was no way to determine that that was it. So I had to play and I hit a fucking remarkable golf shot. But it was, it was. It was amazing out. So I was so frustrated that I was. It was 18th hole. That just happened. I was done, you know. But I'm seeing that so much and I just don't understand. You know, I don't want to just bitch about it, I want to try and find some way to fix it. But is is it fixable? Is there a way, you know? And if we could come up with some way and get with other groups and other podcasts and other golfers to figure out, because we can't be the only people experiencing this.

Speaker 2:

It's just not possible.

Speaker 1:

Everybody's got to be experiencing these. And it was sad because at the King of the Green, when I was setting everything up, there was this lady. She had her two young kids out there and they were running around with the ball and, like you know, putters, like Theo has, you know. They were four or five maybe, running around hitting balls and just having a good time and I was like yeah. And then I look over and one of the kids is Tomahawk in the green, you know, and I'm like yeah you know, and I wanted to go over and slap the shit out of the kid, but you can't do that and you know, so I could but something might happen, something might happen. Where's the mom that was there when? What's she doing right now?

Speaker 2:

Why isn't she over there telling the kids at the bar, yeah, you should be doing this, he's old, my dad was getting hammered at the bar. He was like here's $2, kid, go play the putter course.

Speaker 1:

But if you would have seen you do that, he would have beat your ass.

Speaker 2:

He would have yeah, yeah and that's.

Speaker 1:

That's the problem. Nobody is taking the staunch strict teaching these people the rules like, hey, when you leave a bunker, yeah, make it as you know, as suitable for the next person as possible. You don't just fucking walk with your fucking timber lens in there and leave a trench.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and if you're not going to fix it then you can't play. Like that's the thing. Like yeah, then you can't play golf and that's why I'm not playing golf. You're, and that's why I haven't taken Theo out with, like you guys or anyone else, because he doesn't listen. Well, you know you're not coming out until you do what you're supposed to do and you listen and learn. Like I know he knows some things, but like he's not 100%, and that's why he doesn't play golf with the people I play golf with, because you're not there yet and you're not doing it until you know.

Speaker 5:

Here's my opinion. So I feel like golf has always been viewed as the stuffy, conservative, rich person, whatever you like man with, with a lot of rules. And there are a lot of rules. But the game is changing a ton and I think people don't want to be held to the old ways of golf, because then they view it as a stuffy game. They want to be free, they want to go have fun and be loud, they want to have, they want to drink and roll over golf carts in bunkers and they want to do all the funny shit that they see on PGA memes and whatever. Whatever it is they want to, they want to do the same thing and that's why, for people like us who take golf seriously, it's it's. It pisses us off because that's our space, that's you know. We know the rules, we follow them, we respect the course, we respect the other players. But I think there are some people that that's what they hate about golf and so they're going to do it their way and they don't care. They don't want it to be like the old way of golf. They want it to be the new way of golf where they can be free and do whatever they want.

Speaker 2:

Well, here's the thing. It's like. I get that right. Golf is changing. Golf has changed differently. It's it's becoming more of a popular sport and you can wear hoodies on the golf course, but it's it's literally the same thing as leaving a turd in the toilet and not flushing it.

Speaker 5:

True, it's very true.

Speaker 2:

Correct Right. Like are you not going to flush your shit down the toilet? Then you're inhumane at that point. Like respect the people behind you, and that's where it's going. It's like you need to respect people that are playing behind you so they are offered the same course that you're offered in your thing. Like like I know all of us, when we, when we, if we see a ballmark on a green, we fix it. Every time I'm on a green, I fix two ballmarks all the time. Leave the golf course better than you found it. Just like don't leave a fucking turd in the toilet when you take shit.

Speaker 5:

It's a broader issue. It's not just golf, it's just humanity in general.

Speaker 3:

Yes, yes, it's just, we have golf because that's our thing.

Speaker 1:

Yeah the people that should be out there. Detouring these people from doing this is the golf course, because they're there every day. The marshals are there every day, the starters are there every day, and the golf. But I think they're just so in love with how much money they're making right now that it's like you know we're not investing in it. The course is either, though, so no we can't piss these people off because they won't come back, when a lot of these people don't need to come back. They need to. Hey, that was your golf time. Ok, go on to something else, because you're not doing this right and you're ruining it for other people. You know, you go play tennis and you go out and you play and you you have your fun and you horse around, whatever, and then you leave the tennis court still there. But if, if, when you go to the court, you cut down the net when you leave, you're ruining it for the people behind you. And that's that's what these people are doing. It's just it's. They're not getting the proper education and nobody is telling them. And I I want to figure out a way that if these people are Seriously wanting to play this game and they're just oblivious to the rules, they need to find some way that resonates with them to understand that what you're doing is fucked up and you need to stop.

Speaker 5:

Yeah, we need Cardi B and like all the like DJ.

Speaker 3:

Khaled, or at least like public service announcements about.

Speaker 1:

DJ Khaled raking Bunkers. Yeah, quit standing in the rain, which would go away to go play golf and go rake a fucking bunker.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I mean, dj Khaled would be great for that if he just did like a. Hey, you know, I raked another one.

Speaker 1:

You know I fixed another one Now.

Speaker 4:

Bob another one.

Speaker 2:

If he did that like that would hit man. Ballmark, I fixed another one. You know some shit like that Another one yeah. Another one.

Speaker 5:

It's no wonder like places like Shadow charging a thousand bucks for green fees. Tpc charging 750. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Well, and that's what you know, back in the day, back in the 80s and 90s, a $200 round of golf, you were Uber, exclusive, that's, you know, las Vegas National now with 50 bucks and ah, they just, there's just two. There's not enough. Yeah, and I hate saying this word, but there is not enough regulations. Right now, anybody can go anywhere yard sale, you know Goodwill pick up a set of clubs, buy a 24 dozen bucket of balls and go to the golf course and and think they know what to do.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. But here's the thing like we're not against growing the game, like not at all, we're not against growing the game. We're against growing the game insufficiently or growing it inadequately.

Speaker 1:

Yes, growing it yes. Growing it.

Speaker 4:

Retards growing the game.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, do the right thing. Look out for your fellow human. Don't leave a turd in the toilet. Flush your shit, fix your ballmarks Break your bunkers, you can't stick them with that. Oh yeah, yeah New shirt new hitting green shirt Flush your turds.

Speaker 4:

Flush your turds. Don't leave your turds, mr Hanky.

Speaker 1:

Mr Hanky says flush me. Oh OK, I don't know if the final PGA tour event, the thing Thanks for letting me in. I just it's been so frustrating lately because I'm seeing it everywhere, absolutely everywhere, and it's it's sad because national is a as a beautiful golf course, it's in great conditions and you've got people that are just don't give a shit and it's it's disheartening. So the the final fall or the second to the lab, the penultimate FedEx fall event takes place at in Bermuda, the Butterfield Bermuda event this weekend. Haven't even looked at it, don't know much about it, probably not going to watch it. So if anybody cares to chime in on that, you want to go ahead.

Speaker 2:

Bermuda, there Bermuda.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 5:

It's going to be very tropical, yeah.

Speaker 4:

And windy, they're my.

Speaker 1:

Yes.

Speaker 4:

Very windy.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, so the only is going down. Only two chances left for the guys that are out of the next 10 to get into the next 10. Before the final event before the season is over and the first Full calendar year PGA tour season in a long time will be here for 2024.

Speaker 5:

Are we going to go to the live event?

Speaker 1:

Oh, hell yes.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I'm down for that, for sure. Why not?

Speaker 5:

Yeah, I love, I love. I'll be sure to get like T shirts made Like some, some we should.

Speaker 2:

Yes, CDP shirts on the sea.

Speaker 3:

Flush the turd.

Speaker 1:

We need flush the turd shirts.

Speaker 4:

No turds left behind.

Speaker 1:

Leave no turds behind.

Speaker 4:

Oh live no turds behind.

Speaker 1:

Oh, that would be hilarious. You know, we get on TV because nobody's watching they don't care. Hey, who's all? Who's all going Sunday to Boulder City.

Speaker 5:

I think I'm going.

Speaker 4:

I'm going. I can make that.

Speaker 3:

Yay.

Speaker 4:

Is it Boulder City or Boulder Creek?

Speaker 2:

Well, the meaning of the meaning.

Speaker 4:

Me and I said Boulder Creek.

Speaker 1:

OK, I have to check the email. I thought he said Boulder Creek.

Speaker 2:

It's the meaning.

Speaker 1:

Oh, ok, good, I can try to Exercise my Boulder Muny demons from a couple of weeks ago.

Speaker 4:

Excercise this room is clean as the team.

Speaker 2:

Well, one last question before we leave. Ok, if you were able to golf anywhere in the continental United States, or say Hawaii or Alaska or wherever it might be, in the month of January, where would you? Where would you decide to go, if you can go anywhere? In the in in in, yeah, in the US of a maybe a little place in Miami called Shelby.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, so you would.

Speaker 2:

If you're going to hit like three courses or something like that, you'd go to Miami.

Speaker 1:

Anywhere, because any word anywhere down there.

Speaker 2:

And yeah, I mean, if wars, if wars was not there, OK, let's not talk private clubs, not no private clubs, no hookups. Where would you go?

Speaker 1:

I thought you, I thought you got your little group chat for this stuff, don't worry about it.

Speaker 2:

I'm trying to talk people into some shit, so I'm just trying to figure out what you would do.

Speaker 1:

Well, in January. In January, when you want to go with my wife's birthday.

Speaker 2:

So I would not be going. I don't plan any trips, that's not the question. It's not the question If you could go, where would you go in January? Like a like a four, like a four golf course, like a little tour. What would you do?

Speaker 1:

I mean you can get decent weather in Bandon on the coast. I mean it's cold, but it's not crazy.

Speaker 2:

This excluding band. I'm sorry, excluding bands, Jesus Christ.

Speaker 4:

Excluding band. This is coming from Joe, yeah right there's, there's reasoning behind it.

Speaker 2:

I mean I'd do that, but excluding band.

Speaker 1:

Unfortunately, you have to go warm. You got to go. You know the Georgia, florida, carolina's area, but yeah so like, isn't it like Streamsong maybe?

Speaker 2:

Or like if you were going to go to, like play four courses?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, but I've played Streamsong in January and froze my ass off, so so would you rather like Hawaii over? But I've also. I've also played what's that other course. I also played golf there and it was really nice in January in Orlando, so it's always crap. It's always a crap shoot Jeremy, I think as close as it is.

Speaker 5:

I would go Arizona, I'd go Southern Dunes and I would play in Scottsdale.

Speaker 1:

Good call, good call. Ok, all right, joseph. What's, what's going on?

Speaker 2:

You know, these guys were so mean Dan, julian, Trey, we were trying to do like a yearly golf trip in January because our birthdays all are pretty close, right? So these guys want to go to Hawaii, which I'm up for right.

Speaker 4:

It's an option. It's an option Just because it'll be warm Nice.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, you see me, I'm down for whatever Me I'm down to. You know, just fucking bundle up and just Half swing everything if I need to. You know so.

Speaker 1:

I like enjoying where I'm going.

Speaker 4:

So OK, joe proposed earlier this evening Going to Tennessee. Oh here nuts, Old Takoa Sweetens.

Speaker 2:

Potentially look out mountain.

Speaker 4:

Potentially look out, which I would love to play.

Speaker 2:

We need it, we need a hookup.

Speaker 4:

And so, but Trey, brought up like dude, it's Tennessee January, it'll be fucking cold. Oh, and I kind of, I kind of second with that.

Speaker 2:

But we also did go to North Carolina, which is a little higher. Well, it's online. It's online with Tennessee, and we had Perfect Perfect.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

But it's in line on the hurt.

Speaker 1:

The you know it's below the. Mason.

Speaker 4:

The.

Speaker 1:

Latin line, but it's a little higher in elevation.

Speaker 4:

It's above the Bucky's line.

Speaker 2:

It's a little bit above the Bucky's line.

Speaker 4:

So yeah, so at first I suggested Hawaii a couple of weeks back and it's doable. That's really. The golf's not expensive, but the lodging is more expensive than the golf, yeah, and so it's going to be a little bit pricey. But Florida works and we can also do California still to. That's true, california is quick, we can know who has a time trip.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, we can always just go into Stream Song and then go down Shell Bay, potentially to we can do that too.

Speaker 1:

Do you know who has a time sure in Hawaii?

Speaker 4:

Do 10 man man Sh. Does your timeshare have four beds in it, five?

Speaker 2:

Six oh.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 4:

Six how many people are going, and the and the.

Speaker 1:

You know, joe's is going to Hawaii, katie's coming.

Speaker 4:

So Well, I know that, but also also we have to, and if I'm going to Hawaii, my wife's coming.

Speaker 2:

Yeah exactly.

Speaker 4:

Julian said he might not be able to make this trip. Yeah, so we'll have to.

Speaker 3:

No, definitely Final headcount.

Speaker 1:

Hmm, I'm a prince.

Speaker 4:

Phil Princeville Mackay's got some pretty decent rates 700 bucks for unlimited golf three days.

Speaker 1:

And there's two courses there and there's another little side course on the ocean on the the East Coast. That looks really cool and the only thing that sucks is Is Hawaii is like Far away from any other people, so you're you're not. I mean, you're there and if you're going for that then that's awesome, but if you want to do anything else it's kind of hard. Golf trips are all golf.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, it's just golf, or golf and coffee.

Speaker 1:

I tell my wife hey go, hang out at the spawn, hang out at the beach. See when we're done.

Speaker 2:

Jeremy, what would you do? I don't. You haven't chimed in yet.

Speaker 4:

About Arizona. I said Arizona, yeah, you said.

Speaker 2:

Arizona.

Speaker 5:

You said Arizona.

Speaker 2:

Now, now understanding what we're talking about, would you still go to Arizona?

Speaker 1:

I think we knew what you were talking about. I think I would still go to Arizona.

Speaker 3:

Oh OK.

Speaker 2:

Arizona golf prices are crazy right now too.

Speaker 1:

Every, every where it's crazy yeah it's.

Speaker 5:

I do regret not golfing in in Hawaii, but you saw, I mean Hawaii would also be a second choice.

Speaker 2:

I'm on a huge pokey kick too, so that that being, that's perfect Dicing Good. But yeah, that's currently where we're, at All right speaking of golf.

Speaker 5:

speaking of golf, real quick. Our friend OC so Cal Mark played Prim today. First time in 10 years. He said it looks amazing, it's coming along. Greens are smooth but a little thin still.

Speaker 1:

Mark.

Speaker 5:

Keely.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 5:

Yeah, it's like I'm saying so yeah, we'll have to get out there again, maybe.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I, we're not going to be playing Angel Park in the 2024 VGN season, unfortunately, so we're trying to get the March date move to print Valley. So hopefully that I will know the next day or so If we've got all those locked in and that will help us lock up 90 percent in schedule. So it's a couple, yeah, cool Couple of hiccups out there that we're dealing with, so, but it's all pricing, it's all pricing. And it's it's. It's like I've said before. I mean, I don't blame the golf courses you got to get your money, but when this is, when this is the fan.

Speaker 2:

I'm going to be fucking green that aren't coming back at some point.

Speaker 1:

So yeah, when, when the shit hits the fan and there's nobody playing their golf courses because they've priced everybody out and they're begging for people to come back, it's going to be a quiet response from the door they're knocking upon.

Speaker 2:

Who's knocking where?

Speaker 1:

Exactly, boots are right, joe. I think we're done for the week. We think All right. Oh, when's your hoodie dropping? When's your hoodie?

Speaker 2:

dropping. Oh, the Hitton Greens hoodie should. I was told Friday, but I paid for it three days after I was told this Friday, so I'm expecting next week. I only got 36 of them, I guessed. On sizes, some people told me what size they wanted, so if you let me know, you let me know. If you didn't, you might miss it. I am probably going to work on something with I talked to James and with Blind Square Golf. We might do a collab here soon. I did connect with the Dice man designer off of Fiverr so nice. I'm going to work on a little tiger, a little like a putter lean kind of situation, maybe with the Dice man. So might do that. On embroidery, little outline kind of maybe a Hitton Green Soul Golfers Club kind of thing. I don't know. Still a concept. Hg SGC yeah, so I don't know, but the hoodie should be coming in like two weeks maybe. If you do want one limited sizes, let me know. I'll try and fulfill it. But they are coming and hopefully, hopefully we can fill all the orders that we need to. But there's only 36 of them and there's not going to be any more made ever again. Probably, probably.

Speaker 3:

This is like 100 people Tell somebody that I want more.

Speaker 2:

But you know, with with, with printing and clothing, there's minimums, so I'm not doing it unless there's like 50 people that want one, so which is probably not going to happen.

Speaker 1:

So that's why you left over very few things for VGN. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2:

So if if, if you want one, get it now because it probably is not going to happen again and I did. I did. I make samples sometimes and Roars was the only one that said no, that he didn't want that shirt. So shut out Roars. At Shell fucking Bay. He said he got annoyed because he couldn't read it, because it was a mirror pick, which I'm not a big mirror pick guy, but I get it. But yeah, if you want one, let me know, because they're going to be gone and they're never coming back, probably. So, until then, if you didn't get one, they're coming soon and we appreciate, appreciate you listening to the Chasing Day of that podcast. This was a really interesting podcast today, today.

Speaker 1:

I appreciate you covered a lot of grounds, covered a lot of ground Cover a lot of ground.

Speaker 4:

Lots of topics. These are the homies.

Speaker 2:

These are the bros. We play golf.

Speaker 1:

Hope you play golf, I think, the new national logo with the, the bomb and a Roberto bag is epic.

Speaker 2:

That I think it's great. Like just like a, like a bomb thrown up into a.

Speaker 4:

Pushing a grocery cart.

Speaker 2:

Be sick, hey oh, that's the thing I was going to fight Stickers. Did you see the new Shorty's logo?

Speaker 4:

I did the bear with the 19 flag.

Speaker 2:

Did you see it, Matt?

Speaker 1:

No I haven't the new Shorty's logo.

Speaker 4:

The new.

Speaker 2:

Shorty's logo is a bear. It's a bear with a flag holding 19, 19 flag and just so you know, Hitton Greens did that 19 flag first and the first hit in Greens logo was a shot out. No, the first hit in Greens logo was a shot out to the new course at Bandit. That's where it came from. Oh, there it is. Yeah, that it was.

Speaker 1:

There it is, there it is.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it might take some time to grow on me, but I'm not, I'm not, I don't hate it.

Speaker 4:

I like it. It's better than she branch?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I like it. Might take some growing, but we're playing it next August and I can't wait for that. I can't wait to spend $45,000 on a fucking gear in the pro shop.

Speaker 4:

So New credit card, yeah, new credit.

Speaker 2:

Open it.

Speaker 1:

Open it the bandit card where you get 10% off your. You get 10% rebate on your. They should do that.

Speaker 2:

They probably do Get the dream golf credit card, just type it in right now. Get your favorite logo on the card. Yeah, right oh yeah, Bandit has not missed much on their logos, but pack is definitely missing. My opinion I would redo Pac Dunes logo for sure I got to play shorties, but I do enjoy the logo, the new one. So but anyway, thanks for tuning in this week. We'll be back again next week for more entertaining golf talk and the raffle.

Speaker 1:

The raffle down the raffle, raffle.

Speaker 2:

I was going to get to that.

Speaker 1:

OK, sorry, I want to make sure you got to it.

Speaker 2:

More Roberto's lung hacking and the raffle is going to be announced next week on Monday. So you have one week left. One week left to enter the so high raffle. It's your chance to play so high for twenty dollars. Get it in now. If you're not entered, there's only 25 people in it, really good chance. Twenty dollars potentially To play so high One in 25 odds currently and if you know us, we talk odds every week except this week. But Get it in, Tell your friends it's. You probably won't get the chance ever again to play so high for twenty dollars. So do it now and it's going to go to a good cause if we surpass our goal, to the Southern Nevada Junior Golf Association. So tell everybody. It's going to be announced next week live on YouTube and if you're in it, make sure you tune in live next Monday.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, 30.

Speaker 2:

Pm Pacific. We'll let you know who the winner is. There's no big wheel, there's no favorites here, so until then, this has been another episode of the Chasing Day podcast. See you next week Later.