227: Swinging into the Future: A Deep Dive into Modern Golf, Equipment Innovations, and the Charm of Southern Hospitality
EPISODE 227
Are you tired of the aggressive hustle and bustle of daily life? Then pull up a chair, and let's savor a hearty dose of Southern hospitality together as we unravel Matt's experiences from a recent trip to Alabama. The warmth and welcome he encountered there was a breath of fresh air, a stark contrast from the rush we're so accustomed to. We also spotlighted the Black Desert golf course and its innovative approach to bringing big golf events like the PGA TOUR and FedExCup to new places - a trend we believe could rejuvenate interest in the golfing world.
Ever considered golfing in Utah? Pack your bags and gear up as we journey through its picturesque courses and explore why it sets itself apart as an ideal golf destination. We share our insights on the course conditions, the affordability, and the unique weather patterns - factors that make golfing in Utah a truly unique experience. Then, let's switch gears as we delve into the world of modern golf equipment, with a special focus on the highly acclaimed Odyssey's 'Jailbird' putter. Join us as we discuss its various faces, its counterbalance, and how it has been wielded by golfing pros like Ricky Fowler, Colt Knost, Pat Perez, Wyndham Clark, and Keegan Bradley.
As we take a swing at the future of golf, we share our thoughts on the transformation the sport has undergone in recent years. We scrutinize the effects of technology on equipment and analytics and how it's revolutionizing the game. We also debate on the merits of narrowing fairways to make the game more challenging. And for all you golf novices and aficionados out there, we emphasize the importance of understanding the difference between the technology used by tour players and that available to the average amateur golfer. So tune in and join us on this immersive journey into the world of golf.
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Joe:He started it already.
Speaker 3:We're rolling baby.
Matt:What is up everybody? Welcome to another episode of the Chasing Daylight podcast. That's right, dad is back in town, so maybe a little, maybe a little bit more structure tonight? Probably not, probably not. So I want to give a shout out to the thousands upon thousands of people who have tuned into YouTube right now and are watching the show. Hats off to every single one of you is probably more like one, but it's probably centralized in Southern Highlands. Yes, we're blowing up in the Southern Highlands market right now. So, as you can see, joe is here, jeremy's here, after last week's show, i figure you know Eric likes to talk a lot and these guys kind of just nodded and agreed And yeah, whoa.
Joe:And.
Jeremy:I said 100%.
Joe:a lot, though, a lot.
Matt:Whiskey Joe was ever present. So I kind of like to be a little bit more I don't know confrontational about certain things. So as a shocker yeah, right, come back on and you know, maybe we'll get into some other stuff.
Joe:You know I will say like we. You know you typically don't respect your dad until you grow up, right, and last week, we were without our dad.
Matt:Oh source.
Joe:Excluding excluding AJ, But yeah, running the show is pretty difficult.
Matt:Thank you.
Jeremy:Thank you And phenomenal job All the lines.
Joe:Great job, even though you mispronounce shit all the time and you all the time say, um, but you have to keep it rolling and going and I'm kind of guy.
Matt:It can not as bad as Trey with the you know yeah, or or me with 100%ers.
Joe:But yeah, it's not easy. So you know, shout out to dad. Well, thank you And welcome home.
Matt:Thank you, thank you Yeah.
Joe:Forgot your father's day gift. So some, some of you may may have known.
Matt:you know we had a death in the family and we had to head out to Alabama for a week. It's never fun getting to meet new people and faces, see new faces, in that kind of environment. But there is this thing called Southern hospitality that a lot of people talk about but don't really experience or understand. It's a real thing. The people in the South are absolutely incredible, amazing people. so much love and so much caring for our family and the rest of my wife's side of the family that you know this all affected. I mean we, we got put up in an Airbnb for a week that somebody rents out, that it was a friend of the family. We didn't pay for food for a week. I mean just everybody's like we got you, we got you, we got you. It was, it was an unbelievable show of love and support and affection and it is 100% a real thing. Agreed, it's, it's wild It's. you know, i a lot of people like to make fun of the South, saying that they're rednecks in the backwoods and all that stuff, but I mean literally they are 30 to 40 years in the past as far as how aggressive the world and society has become, because they're just happy to see people, happy to be friendly, happy to hang out And it's. it's kind of fun to be around. And then you get to Vegas and you got guys blowing their horn 10 seconds into the car.
Joe:Right, And how much? how much Southern hospitality do you think there is to vegans?
Matt:Well, Robert didn't enjoy it as much.
Aarik :Vegetables taste like sad.
Matt:Yeah, it's. You know there's a yeah. Sorry Bob, it's no, Don't be Bob.
Aarik :Vegetables still taste like sad.
Matt:It's not the place for a vegan.
Speaker 3:I'll say that.
Aarik :Yes, yeah, it's not a vegan, not at all. Don't California my dollars, yeah.
Joe:Sounds like a bumper sticker.
Aarik :I might have seen one or seven.
Matt:You should see the bumper stickers in Idaho like directly messages to the Californian saying we don't want you go home. It's blatant, blatant but it's pretty funny. So how you guys doing tonight, man, sorry, sorry for that little somber mode, but I had to get that out there because you know we I love the South. It's amazing, especially where we were.
Joe:Yeah, doing good, i mean I you know, I didn't. one thing that just popped in my head. I didn't realize Jeremy bought that black desert out. I wish I had bought one. Yeah, When did you buy that?
Matt:That was all sneaky.
Jeremy:It was right after we finished. Yeah, yeah, it was one of the first attempt.
Joe:You're such a ninja. Yeah, yeah, big news coming out of black desert with the PGA tour going there next year.
Matt:Right, That was awful fast.
Joe:Right off the bat.
Matt:Awful, fast Yeah.
Joe:Not a spectator course, but it's. I'm super excited to see them playing out there.
Matt:Hey, what if? what if this is a trend, with this new after the FedExCup, but still the same season, continuing your points to the end to see where you fit in for the next season? What if they start going to more courses that aren't, you know, in the typical rotation? And you know what if they say, hey, shriners, we're going to send you to black desert, or Hey, Sanders farms, or whatever it is we're going to bring you to, you know, south Dakota's, you know. it's an opportunity that, in order to drive some interest in this time of golf where people aren't going to be interested because the top players aren't playing, to do something different.
Joe:I would love to see it. I think I think it's one of the downfalls of the PGA tour is they're so stuck in like the legacy of everything, And this guy's one here, this guy's one here To see new courses. Like they could play land man. That would be sick as fuck if they played land man in a tournament. Like if they use that opportunity where it's kind of like a you know no man's land, get your points while you can kind of situation like to see them hop around places. That would be super sick, I think. To see some new courses, Because eventually, like I feel like the wave is going to change into that style at some point, or at least currently, like in the architecture, the golf architecture situation that's going on currently, like in 20 years, do we want to keep seeing them play this course after 70 years, Like I think. I think there's a huge opportunity for them to highlight new courses or different courses in that because they created like an area of the year where it's kind of like a no man's land, like a free zone. Let's create something and there's a big opportunity there for them. I think it'd be sick.
Matt:Jerry has other than the corn fairy? has PGA been to Utah?
Jeremy:I don't, so we used to go to the champions 60 years I was at. Park City, but that was, which was cool, but my daddy's the volunteer at that, actually, so I would tag along, but I don't remember any PGA tour events. I don't even when they said it's been 60 years. I don't even remember what that event would have been. Yeah, i think they tried to get an LPGA event there up in the area where I used to live, but I mean, with that coming next year and then actually next year right For LPGA, or is it?
Matt:Yeah, LPGA is next year. Yeah, so I mean, or 2025, one of the two I'm sure they hype up.
Joe:They hype up, grow the game so much that I think it's a huge opportunity for them. Like who cares what the score is there, like if it's a sick fucking Muni, like whatever I mean it's a great way to honor Weisskopf to.
Matt:It was his last course that he designed. He's a he's a you know a legend in the game And it's a great way for them to showcase his last hurrah. It's a marvelous golf course. I don't think it's fan friendly. No, it's not. So I mean there's going to be areas where the fans aren't even going to get to see some of them play because, yeah, unless, like that area we were talking about, where it backed up to the houses and it was really wide open, i mean they could grandstand that off, but that's still a ways out there.
Joe:And there's a lot of lava rock out there that would be difficult to build.
Matt:Yeah, They're going to have to have first aid. first aid stands everywhere.
Joe:Yeah, Have you seen pictures of it AJ.
Aarik :Who the fuck is that I have not? So relax, but it reminds me of like it's still impressive to me that they walk Shuttle Creek, like it's still impressive to me, like for the fans to be on Shuttle Creek, like that's, i mean, obviously you can walk anything, but it's not a walkable golf course, like it's not somewhere. I'm like dude, I can't wait to like go get a candy and walk that golf course.
Joe:I can just brutal to me, yeah, like desert is not walkable either.
Matt:So I mean, the thing that shadow too. I mean you can watch them tee off on one. You can see them come in on nine and 18. You can see him hit the part three across the road. You can see him come in on four. You can see him go out on 10 and then just a short area for the most part. Yeah, over the hill is 13 and 14. So I mean there's it. can you know you can have a good day out there watching golf.
Joe:Black Desert is not like that. No, no, so not that I'm.
Aarik :I played Chateau Creek every day, obviously, and that kind of stuff, and I'm not trying to get banned from Chateau Creek, but it's just like dude, like.
Matt Gontarek:I remember playing it in San.
Aarik :Juan tee boxes and going dude like I swear I played this hole before. Like you get on some of the tee boxes and like some of the holes look, so the same.
Matt:On the back.
Aarik :I think that's my opinion, it's just my opinion. Like a lot of the golf holes look the same to me.
Joe:Yeah, yeah, but what is this?
Matt:Yeah, so 11, 12, 15 and 16, I think, or 16, they're all run the same way and they're kind of similar.
Aarik :I think you're just paying for privacy and the exclusivity, exclusivity, exclusivity.
Speaker 3:Yeah, playing that golf. Yeah.
Aarik :Because, right, they do what? five to 10 rounds a day, whatever, like in groups of one to three, like that's what you're paying for?
Joe:I mean, there's a few holes out there, like 17 and 18. You're paying for 17 and 18. And then what is it? One, two, three, four, that par-five right with the tree in the middle, yeah, like there's a few holes you're paying for out there. A lot of them are seen, blah, they blah.
Aarik :But No, dude, cool, great conditions. Obviously everything's perfect. There's not a blade of grass out of place. I get it, the whole shebang, but, like again, the objective.
Joe:Like, yeah, and it's very pricey currently.
Aarik :So Oh my God, i've heard it went up slightly.
Matt:And when to when the summer rate is still 750 plus Caddy correct?
Joe:Yes, oh, i'm sure. Yeah, when we played during.
Matt:Plus, I think you got to put in 20 hours at the buffet.
Joe:We played for Father's. Day 2020 for 250 at win, and now it's 750, which is just insane to me.
Aarik :But it's 750 plus the Caddy, correct? Yes, yeah, yeah, so it's, it's a thousand or more.
Matt:Yeah, it's 11. Yeah, it's just come on.
Joe:Crazy. Well, it's all relative, isn't it? I'm glad I played it already.
Matt:How is the prices in Texas going? How's the? I know you probably don't. You probably get a lot of your golf taken care of because you're such a high profile PXG member.
Aarik :Wow, that's what we're doing today.
Matt:Yes, always.
Joe:Aren't you on the world?
Aarik :ranking points. You're listed right. Can't wait to see all of you guys, all of you. And Jeremy didn't say anything but you're included.
Matt:I was thinking he's great.
Aarik :So, is it? No, it's so. here the golf, here the issue is anything nice is not public. That's the issue with golf, and I don't want to say Texas.
Joe:but a lot of parts of the country. It's in Georgia, like that too. A lot of parts of the country.
Aarik :Yeah, you're paying a hundred dollars around a golf for, honestly, a that's a hundred dollar round of golf and dollars.
Speaker 3:I mean anything nice it's.
Aarik :It's private, so we need thirty to three hundred thousand dollars upfront and then pay your monthly dues like there's nothing. That just what it is here. So if you play like the nice golf course, here is Coway's golf club, so that is a two hundred dollar round of golf. But the I guess the cool part, if you will, that's all day. So you show up, eat breakfast, foods included, everything on the cart. So basically anything that is not cigar or alcohol is on. So anything on the cart from the bed cart lady. There's a halfway house between seven, i think thirteen or fourteen. Any of the food there, any of that stuff, it's all included. You can actually order food when you play, or I'm going to get food, you get food to go like. You can order the menu, they don't care.
Matt Gontarek:Like it's, it's, it's all included that way.
Aarik :So the two hundred bucks is ultimately it's worth it. It's just getting people here to realize the value of what they're getting for set dollar amount, like because everything here is private.
Matt:Just what it is. Was it like this five years ago before?
Aarik :covid, or yes, it's okay, so it hasn't really been that long.
Matt:So, wow, i want we gotta find where. maybe Florida. We'll have to check with Florida and see, because I know they. I mean they have a lot of private courses to. I have Palm Springs. It's impossible because that's all they have is private courses. Everybody's a member there. They have very few public courses.
Jeremy:Utah. so Utah, i was just thinking most of the courses are not private in Utah. There are, a lot of them are municipal courses, but they're conditions wise, are not private, maybe not payout level, but a lot of them are, like some of the like better courses here would be like sort of the normal courses there and not many are private and it's still cheaper. cheaper, it's fifty bucks probably now with the car eighteen.
Speaker 3:That's respect.
Aarik :So fifty dollars gone up a lot since I have perspective in Dallas, fifty dollars for the car. The fairways are probably long, we won't even talk about T boxes and that's just what it is Go tracks for what we're used to, for how spoiled we are. Yes, it's just.
Matt:That's just what it is, and that's what people are used to here, do they? do they cuz? here you get the springtime. whether it's beautiful, the rates go through the roof. now that it's like a month and a half, um, you know, the rates come down a little bit because they know not everybody's gonna be brave enough to go out in the heat. Does Dallas do that too? Do they have a?
Aarik :reduction during summer. Dallas doesn't care, cuz we don't have seasons like it's. It rains or it's cold, or it's a thousand, that's just and that's just what it is here, like it being a hundred here three, two and a half weeks ago, like it's not normal.
Joe:So it doesn't care, it's like Dairy Queen, like freezer melt.
Aarik :Yeah freeze. Do they turn it upside down with the hand?
Matt:Yeah, i used to work it out. So, uh, in Alabama they had a little heat wave come through so it was like 98 degrees, but it's, it's 80% humidity, it's correct. Miserable, miserable. And uh, somebody said to me cuz yeah, we like to wear our weather out here, it's just like it's like, it's like I was like. You know, the dry heat is such a nice thing.
Aarik :It's, and and until you come from humidity, people don't realize how much of a blessing dry heat is like. That's why I can't wait to get to the desert, i'll have a nose bleed for a date and then, like life is good, i almost sound like a normal human.
Joe:Yeah, like when I used to live in Florida and like we're getting off the plane there when I would come from the desert and you know you're like a fucking fun house, like with the fucking you know inflatable like things, and you're just like trying to swim through the air like it's just too thick.
Matt:Dude, correct, they're gonna say nothing wrong, hard pass.
Speaker 3:Hard pass 100%.
Matt:Alright, let's. Let's get to today's hot topic that, um. You know, i uh now playing right field Eric Greenlee in a text chat just to tell you guys what I think about the jailbird, because none of you asked, but I'm in a mood um, but if you were here, dad, last week, we did.
Joe:We did bring this up during last week's podcast.
Matt:I listened, but that was a week ago and how you did that Easy dad. How are you just gonna like, in the middle of a text thread where we're talking about something else, go? hey, let's roll back seven days and talk about the jail bird again.
Aarik :Well, just because you weren't a part of it you were not a part of it.
Matt:Correct, i was in the text chat so it has to be.
Aarik :I had to be a part of it Life is hard Okay.
Matt:So, uh, please continue Two things, two things with the jailbird Um, i thought it was hilarious. Uh, odyssey, uh, the powers that be at Calaway are like um, they're selling for how much on eBay, correct? Um, uh, guys, uh, yeah, crank up the money. Yeah, um, money to be made. So I'm sure they made a couple million, uh, over this release already, because everybody's losing their mind over this putter. that was trash. Uh, you know six seven years ago.
Joe:Is it sold out? I mean, it was like a plate too, right.
Matt:Well, okay, trash is a little aggressive.
Joe:It had like them little mini like bra hinge plate, face right, where's like the little, little, little little.
Aarik :here's the catch, my opinion, and from what I've seen, i've seen that putter with a minimum of four different faces on it.
Matt:Yeah, it's got the white hot, it's got the O works. I've seen it milled and what's another one?
Joe:It's the. What's the black one? It's the black one.
Matt:It's got like the little mini hinge like the little little hooks that that, that they're supposed to the bra strap.
Aarik :Encourage forward roll the bra strap.
Speaker 3:I'm sure that was a two version, right. Well, a lot of, a lot of, i mean.
Matt:Odyssey likes to do milling on. I like the milled Odyssey faces, except the two long one. I don't like that face at all.
Aarik :Every brand has a milled face, though.
Matt Gontarek:That's what I'm saying, like that was the thing about the text.
Aarik :That's the thing about being objective. Like there's everything works every for everybody. It depends on how everybody delivers it. It depends on how everybody delivers it. There's not a bad face, it just depends on the particular golfer.
Matt:Trotty did a great video. Was it Trotty or was it? No? no, who was it? Somebody?
Speaker 3:maybe Chris Trot.
Matt:No, it wasn't Trotty.
Aarik :It was. It was Taylor made.
Matt:Yeah, it was god, maybe it wasn't Johnny Wonder, maybe it might have Johnny Wonder's Callaway. So yeah, but they, they talked about it And it's to get your hands more swinging the club instead of feeling the weight at the end. You know it's a. it's a big counterbalance, okay, and it's he. he broke it and it made sense to me. Um, you know guys that tend to tend to flip it a little bit more or or the feeling of the putter head going through prevents their hands from going through. this offsets that by making it heavy, making it heavy, making it heavy, making it heavy, making it heavy, making it heavy, and that had to get through. you have to swing the hands and you know Ricky was struggling with his putting and I mean all these guys are tinkers. I know James fights. My buddy said that Ryan Moore has a room that is dedicated to putting in his house, where he has probably 600 putters, you know, and they, they tinker all the time until it's their livelihood. It's their, you know, it's how they make their living and if it's their livelihood they're going to be able to do it. And he found something that worked and now everybody in the world is going to have a 39 inch putter with a long super stroke grip and a 450 gram head.
Aarik :Yeah, the part that's very interesting is before the putter, when he was using our Newport's Newport two style head, which is basically Tiger's old head, right One of his throw a's when he was using his ball strike. I would argue that he was one of the best putters ever.
Speaker 3:One of the best Yeah Right Forget about ball striking and whatever.
Aarik :Yeah, yeah, as far as putting solely but ball striking went down, he showed with iron show with golf, he changes golf swing. Let's just that's what it is. Yeah, but like now the combination of everything is what is making it all come together and just making everything better and then like it's really really cool to see that.
Joe:I mean he, he struggled for a long time and he went back to butch recently and he his swing got less flat and he's been in good tension the past few weeks. But it's a jackpot for Odyssey because it's literally three different winners in the past three weeks, like and Ricky has been in contention every one of those tournaments. So correct.
Aarik :I mean it's, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a mega bucks jackpot for people who don't know what it is. Yeah, like Colt knows to use that putter, nobody cared. Pat Perez used the putter, nobody cares, and I'm sure there is a. You know how many of the tour players use the putter.
Matt:Don't care, but like they didn't, they were, they didn't. Those guys didn't win three tournaments in a row. You know, that's it's, it's great, it's. I mean, that's the way it was like one of the the captain of what's one of the most likeable players on the team. He is one of those guys, that moves the needle Correct, that moves the needle and golf right now. He is agreed, agreed, jeremy. What it is I I promise, favalora, i was going to make you talk. You know what? I saw one of those putters and I went up to see because apparently I talked too much.
Speaker 3:No, no, no, Jeremy doesn't know you make up for my lack of talking Um.
Jeremy:I saw one of those putters and I wish I would have bought it. It was, it was used, so it was used, so I should have bought it.
Aarik :I can get you on. I didn't know.
Jeremy:Yeah, but I did hit it a few times. It's not my jam. It would have been straight to eBay for sure.
Aarik :Well, never mind, i can't get you, we're not put it on eBay, that's okay, yeah, give it to someone that wants to use it.
Jeremy:No, i'm just.
Matt:I'm I'm happy with my stick right now.
Aarik :Hear that, yeah, for about an hour.
Matt:Shut up. It's been in the bag for a while.
Speaker 3:Stop it, i'm not happy with it.
Jeremy:Well, yeah because, I I haven't been happy with the shaft.
Matt:I that's. I haven't not been upfront about that.
Aarik :What's in it, maddy Matt?
Matt:I got a BGT in it right now.
Aarik :What's up, dad Matt?
Matt:BGT, bgt's in it right now. I was going through I'm trying to find something that would work and I was like oh crap, i forgot I had this on this one. I'm just rolling it pretty good Rolling it pretty good.
Aarik :The tour one, the black one the skinny one.
Matt:It's the first one, the first tour one that's got the the paint, the red and white paint on it. Yeah, so I'll be. uh, i'll be getting a black here real soon.
Jeremy:My man. So let's talk about this putter, this putter shaft thing for a bit, because this is one area, never experienced it. So, and I'm a I'm a traditional person I just want the steel putter shaft thing. I'm a person that I can get one of those BGT shafts and rock one of those, but I don't know if I actually ever would do it. but if, how much better is it going to make a person or is it really just up to the feel of them putting that's going to be the biggest factor.
Aarik :I mean, you don't know who is this question to?
Jeremy:this is to anyone. I mean, you guys all use the shaft. You have a ton of experience with the equipment. Whoever wants to answer that question, it's opinion question.
Matt:Well, hang on, so I can. I can answer that question. I'm going to let you have the floor here for second, are you going to put a BGT in the Zach?
Aarik :Johnson putter? No, no, i was. I was taught on the Seymour. So here's the catch I was told, per Blair, that I don't need it per how I wrote.
Jeremy:Oh good, you fancy man.
Aarik :So the catch is, if you think about iron shafts and drivers shafts when you get fit for them, right The obvious let me put my hands in here. like the other way, if you miss putts from three feet, there ain't there's nothing on earth that's going to help you. right? That, just what it is. Right Now, when you get to 15 feet, 20 feet, leg putts, blah, blah, stuff like that, stuff that you don't expect to make, you're just trying to get it close. If you miss the cup by a cup either way, then you probably touch edges, which is a really, really big deal, because stuff that you don't get close maybe you can't get close.
Matt:It also helps with tell him, tell him how many lip out you had at Black Desert. Uh, probably eight.
Aarik :Okay, so what if we don't make all eight? but what if we make three to five of them? Yeah Right, so that's where a shaft like that helps at that distance. So before there was BGT, before there was any of that stuff, tommy armor always was a little bit of a glare from BGT about it. I go how close were we using wedge shafts as opposed to what you have? And he said you're probably 75% of the way there, and again, from three feet, if you can't make it, you're just going to miss anyways because you're just not good. That's what it is. But if we can get stuff that burns edges to go in the hole, if we can get stuff that rolls four feet past the cup or rolls nine feet or rolls two feet, if you can't make it, that cuts down on three putts obviously. So it's more so of taking dispersion and making the dispersion better, whether it is directionally or distance, so but.
Jeremy:so I guess my question is sort of how much is that technology going to make up for a lack of skill in a putter?
Aarik :shaft. I mean, if you suck, you suck. I mean like let's just call it what it is, but it's not as factual like putter shafts too soft. Way too soft. You have something that is a piece of spaghetti with something on the end of it that weighs 350 to over 400 grams. It makes it flex more, it's harder to control, you mis-hit it more. Inserts nowadays, to an extent, can be too soft. So, and again, we have to how do you say that Differentiate between an amateur putter and what a tour player get, because the different stuff is different. The golf balls are different, so there's nine bajillion variables that we need to be aware of when we do that.
Jeremy:Can you send me a tour steel putter ball and round it off to me?
Matt:Don't get greedy Yes.
Aarik :No, i had to think about it, but yes, okay.
Matt:So what is the difference in a steel tour putter shaft than a rack.
Aarik :There's a difference, and this is I'm not saying it's going to get me in trouble, but there's a difference between a retail stroke lab and a stroke lab.
Jeremy:Oh, we know that Same things as driver shafts and iron heads and everything.
Aarik :So you're touching it and you see what it is and it's etched, and you know what it is. You don't know what it is.
Matt:I can't imagine a single professional golfer that relies on a putter to make him money having a stroke lab rack shaft in his putter.
Aarik :And the only exception to that rule is your random trick in what's his nuts? Terrell Hatton, who'd fricking throw stuff in the creek and breaks everything.
Jeremy:The one that had to go to a PGA Superstorm by a putter Shane.
Aarik :Lowry, you can, yeah, and maybe you make everything with it And that's amazing And I legitimately I hope you do, but that's not reality at that level. No, i agree, but the guy who shoots 120, you make it or you don't, just is what it is. And I see it every day. Well, it doesn't go down the line, it doesn't go straight. Well, you're not good.
Jeremy:Right. So let's expand this equipment thing and that exact topic.
Aarik :Here we go, so here we go.
Jeremy:So how much do you think the crappy average golfer has improved just from equipment throughout the? you know maybe where was the big point where equipment really took a huge step? Was that like mid 2000s? Was it when the like titanium drivers came out, and do you think it was that was the big equipment change that really changed the whole industry for equipment?
Aarik :I don't know if I can put a timeline on it, but I think the golf ball changing helped amateurs a ton and the golf club getting bigger, bigger, bigger helped the amateur golfer be better, just because, well, it doesn't spin enough, I can't control it. Oh me, if you hit it in the right side of the fairway, if you're in 84, it'd be in somebody's backyard Right. Like and that's the thing with even with fitting like I'm here to help you, like people come and they argue with me and they think they know more about it, but like, ultimately, i'm here to help you. I want you to hit straighter, i want you to hit farther, i want you to hit and play. And unfortunately which I think we talked about this last week Golfers don't think they should shoot three pointers like Steph Curry, Right. They don't think they should be dunking from the free throw line any of that stuff. They don't think they should at 500 foot homeruns. But you give somebody a golf club and they expect to not curve and the seven iron should go 160. Period. That's not how it works, right. Like well how far should it go. All it goes, as far as you allow it to go.
Speaker 3:Do you think a lot of?
Jeremy:people are sort of getting, i mean, other than, like the players that are seriously, you know, practicing, and the top amateurs and whatever, do you think that the majority of golfers are relying too much on equipment advances and not furthering their skills and improving. That way, do you think they're kind of using equipment as a way to think their game's improving, when it may be not, i mean it is but sort of fixing, putting a bandaid on an issue that could be corrected through lessons and practice and stuff like that.
Aarik :I think equipment can help. I think equipment can help you progress and make your misses better. But if you're not going to put in the work, then it doesn't really kind of matter what you do. Yeah, right, yeah, i mean it's just.
Joe:It's just what it is Like this kind of goes back to what we talked about last week too.
Aarik :Yeah, it's not going to go that far.
Joe:Like that.
Aarik :My buddy hits a seven iron 230. Yeah, i think it'd be cool if I did that, but it's not in the cards for me. Like I have to be realistic of what my abilities are and how I move it, and it's just just what it is Now. Can I make your misses better? Yes, can I help you hit it a little bit farther? Yes, can I help you be more consistent? Yes, that's, that's what it is Like, that's what I do, like. It makes me, honestly it makes me happy to help people play better golf, like that's fun to me, but we have to be realistic with what our ability is.
Joe:Well, this kind of goes back to what we talked about last week with the like you put the work in with the launch monitor. Like, obviously technology is advanced with the launch monitor situation And these guys that are grinding all day for 10, 12 hours a day with a launch monitor that's how they get good is because they do have the technology that shows where they're hitting it, how they're hitting it, their spin rates, optimizing those situations to where they get the automatic feedback, to where they can dial it in even better. Like, yeah, technology in the clubhead is great, but now these guys are getting automatic feedback on the launch monitors. And because most people don't have an eye, like Butch Harmon where he says he doesn't even use it And he can just tell what's going on with the golf ball. So I think the adaptation of the launch monitor and these guys on tour being able to afford it and invest the time in it, that's what's making them incredible.
Aarik :What's really cool, too, is I get a lot of questions about well, is Trackman accurate? I'm like Hey man, look, i understand it's an orange rectangle, but that really small thing costs $30,000. That's what tour players put their life on to play golf for a million dollars a week. Well, they don't use it on a golf course. I see that gray thing they put in front of the golf ball. I get it. That's a GC quad, that's just. that's more portable, which I'm pretty sure Trackman is probably working on that right, but that's portable, you would think you would have one right now, you're good. The Trackman has to be calibrated a little bit, you know, and it's more stationary. But dude, the guys on TV and the ladies on TV, that's what they use. So if it's good enough for somebody to play golf for a million dollars a week, it's probably okay for you to play for a hundred bucks for a round of golf with your buddies. We're good.
Joe:Yeah, i mean that's the thing the amateur golfer.
Aarik :I don't mean that in a mean way, that's just what it is.
Joe:The amateur golfer does not have money to spend on a situation like that or like a Agreed, And that is a huge differential in the game. So it's And most of these people are playing indoor which GC quad is better indoor and Trackman is better outdoor. These guys are actually going outside and simulating the lyes and the grass and turf, And that's the differential. Right there, Most people that have a simulator at home they're hitting off a mat Like that's not going to give you the feedback you need to win at the highest level.
Aarik :Is it okay if I say something to that point?
Joe:Yeah, I'm 100%.
Aarik :We started players inside.
Joe:Switching to that one?
Aarik :No seriously, i'm not like.
Joe:Well, yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, I Stop Drink every time you hear 100% Hold, please.
Aarik :We started players inside, because it eliminates every single variable except for you and that golf club, right. That's why amateurs don't like it, because there's nothing to blame it on except for dumb dumb air?
Matt:No, there is It's. I can't hit a golf ball inside.
Aarik :I hear it all the time right.
Joe:I used to feel that way I totally used to, but now I've overcome that feeling.
Aarik :So do we fine tune outside Dude, absolutely Like. Do we change stuff after it's inside Dude 1000% like. But it gives you a really, really good baseline And that's what I do when I fit people. This is the best here. Go play golf. We need to adjust. Let's adjust it. We need to adjust this, let's adjust it Like we can always tweak things, which is the same thing that tour players do. Right, like, it's just, it's a good base, if you will Not saying that's where you land, but that's a good base.
Joe:In this situation, you're going to be able to tell how well they're striking the golf ball, because if you hit the mat first, you're going to be able to tell. So it's.
Aarik :That's where attack angle and smash comes in effect. Yeah, totally.
Matt:Correct, okay 100% Real quick. have an apology to everybody that was tuning in for the YouTube stream.
Joe:I caught it.
Matt:I caught it. I touted how well this had worked the past couple of weeks and was really trying to get people to come over here and check us out. And there's a little button that you put that says start stream. that I totally forgot Dad's back for vacation. A little 45 minutes late on the YouTube stuff. I apologize, you missed some. I mean, the secrets that Eric just revealed were amazing. You'll have to listen on Wednesday. No, he didn't say nothing about that.
Joe:I posted the link and I clicked the link on my story and I was like, let me just double check this. It says waiting, waiting, 8.30 pm waiting.
Matt:And we're already getting some good comments coming in talking about Joe. Looks like he's in heaven. The lights are way too bright. People want to know if Hodges fixed your lights.
Joe:He has not yet. No, hodges has not fixed my lights yet. He's a busy man, he's got golf trips to book. Oh yeah, yeah, I get it Okay.
Matt:So, eric, i want your take, because this was a little bit in the text chat earlier. A pretty predominant podcast that revolves around golf had some harsh words to say about former PXG players that are now winning on their professional tours And I didn't feel like the information was justified, because just because a person changes equipment doesn't mean it was the equipment's fault. But I was curious to hear what you had to say about those who said that.
Aarik :I think it's accurate and also inaccurate meaning.
Matt:That's a very political way to put it.
Aarik :I'm about to blow it up in about nine seconds.
Matt:Okay.
Aarik :Well, they can't win with certain golf equipment. Well, if you do their research and if you do whatever, charles, how the third one with the golf equipment? I don't want to say conveniently because I don't know them, i don't know what they're thinking, but I mean Jason Kokerak kind of did okay with the golf equipment. I mean he won kind of a few events with certain product, and then we can go back to some of the ladies who did what they did. So I told them last week, i told Joe and Jeremy the backstory on some of the information which I can tell you that can't be recorded But It's just misinformation, right, like I don't care how good you hit it. Like we can talk about ball striking all day and Hit it 9,000 yards and blah, blah, blah, like if you don't ship but you don't win, like it just what it is right. So Nobody, in my opinion, nobody makes bad golf equipment. You just golf is hard. That's the part I don't think people understand. Like golf is very, very hard. Like Ricky Fowler as an example, he literally has Every means to an ends to him as far as what he needs to be a better golfer, like literally money and product is at his disposal and money's no, like it doesn't exist.
Matt:There's nothing holding him back from improving his right.
Aarik :Talk him. It took him over four years. So to bash, not bad, they're not bashing because that's aggressive for them to say a golf equipment manufacturer. When they switch, they win. That's not fair and I don't care if it's title list or PXG or tailor-made It's, it doesn't matter. Like you get hot, you get hot and you win right. Like we can say the same thing about any sports playoff team. Like I love the Knights and I will back the Knights forever. The Knights are really really good. They're really really tough. They got hot, they rode the wave and they trick and raked it good for them.
Joe:There's so many variables to like injuries. All right, all that shit.
Aarik :I mean, if kitchuck plays, do they do what they do? I'm not saying they don't, but do they really? in that last game, nine to three, like you know what I mean, like there's Very you can. You can put any caveat you want into it, so to say, because somebody leaves a brand and they win. Like that's not fair.
Joe:Yeah, and there's. They're so dialed and in tune with whatever brand they're with, that it fits them, correct.
Aarik :So it's because nobody cared. Well, excuse me, i'm not saying nobody cares, but, like Rory Macaraz, every, literally every single option at his disposal, yeah, okay, cool. Why does anyone every golf tournament Mm-hmm, and golf is hard, bro Like it's like?
Joe:yeah, there's very there's things that happen Like it's a poppy sick this week, like I'm worried about her, like it gets into the mental aspect of everything. But like even the PXG players, they they make clubs to look how they want them to and Put the weights where they want to, to get the same window and all that shit. They have everything at their disposal on the tour. So it's As does every other brand. Yeah, 100% drink, but now it's easy to pick on.
Aarik :It's easy to pick on the new guy on the block. Is that fair to say?
Matt:that's what I was gonna go to next, because in their follow-up comments They were like It's a very new company on A global scale of golf compared to you know, wilson has been around a hundred years and and all these other brands have been around for a long time. Do you think that is valid? I mean, how much data has PXG obtained compared to TaylorMade and Callaway and Tile is not nearly as much. But in this era of golf that is relevant right now. You go back five years. They have just as much data, if not more. So it can you say that they're an inferior company because they're new?
Joe:I don't know. The technology has changed, even in that fact. It's it the. The data from ten years ago is irrelevant now.
Matt:Exactly, that's what I'm saying, so you can't say that Tile has been around longer. They have more info. No because the info is just pertinent to the last five years.
Aarik :Correct, and so the other part that's not fair, if you will, is Well, the guys don't like the irons because they get jumpers. Okay, cool. Could be the problem with sorry Could be the lie Correct and the problem with it is the patents that PXG owns. As far as a hollow body construction with material inside, nobody can else can do what PXG do because they own all the patents. So technically, for a hollow body product with material inside, they own everything and they make it better than everybody else That catches. The guys who are playing on tour have won those events, don't play those golf. So everything that those guys are saying technically is irrelevant.
Matt:Yes, it's not this Yeah.
Aarik :Charles, how one with TVs? That's what I have. There's no material in, there's no jumper. You hit it good or you don't. yeah, jt and Roy, and now those DJ, all the guys playing blade. There's no jumpers, there's no material inside.
Speaker 3:So so everything they're saying.
Aarik :99% of what they're saying is irrelevant because the guys on TV don't play that product the ladies. When Ryan O2 one she played Oh, it's a blade, there's no material in it. So what they're preaching or what they're commenting about Doesn't count, because that's not what they use. Now. Eric Cole Last I've seen plays gin for teas, which does have a little material in it. That material is so little in that head like he plays a blade. That's what it is. It's a little bit more more forgiving blade. But To my knowledge he doesn't get jumpers like you hit a good shot, you don't. You make a, put you down. That's what happened in his golf. They're just what it is.
Matt:So I did again.
Aarik :I think it's just people being misinformed.
Joe:So you say that PXG owns the patents on hollow bodies, right? So 790s were hollow bodies, correct the first ones? correct speed? Oh yeah, so was that? was that a direct attempt to copy what PXG was doing? Okay, and did they?
Aarik :have to lose my hand. I'm trying to get my hand in there. So if you take the back of the golf club and shake it like, shape it like a cup, correct?
Joe:Shake it like a shawl. Should we all do this, But wow.
Speaker 3:I can't wait to see you.
Aarik :And then you put the material in and the faces welded on last. He owns the patent on that process, so Taylor made.
Joe:Had the material inside hold on. All right, i'm sorry, i'm jumping ahead like a hang on. Let me get there jumped out. Oh, i sorry.
Aarik :I don't want to tell I didn't have to worry about jumpers. Then you weld the face on last. He owns a patent on that process. The material inside. He owns a patent on the entire inner cavity being filled a hundred percent. He owns a patent on how thin the face can be. He owns a patent on. So you notice on, doesn't matter. Taylor made Callaway ping blah, blah, blah. There's always like a screw or a port pan or something They have to inject it with. Whatever they ejected in. Because he owns a patent, i'll put in the golf club together. Yeah, bob Parsons. Oh and it doesn't matter all four of us here. We all have a guy who it's a seven-hundred, one, fifty, and then on it. Nowhere it goes 180. There's hot spots, there's dead spots, and it's not their fault. He owns the patent on Filling the entire cavity a hundred percent, just what it is. So now it's.
Jeremy:Bob Parsons fault, that's because he made everything more consistent.
Aarik :He made everything more consistent. It's not his fault. He chose to put the money in the product, Yeah instead of putting in his pocket.
Joe:Yeah, you put the money in the R&D to print to figure it out, correct?
Speaker 3:And that's the only reason people.
Aarik :Well, that's one of the reasons people hate him. But he cut out the middleman, he goes direct to customer. Yeah, he doesn't have to pay margins. Well, that's stupid. Well, it's not stupid. Everybody else makes money.
Speaker 3:Yeah so. The main question that I can't wait for my goodness, all right, go ahead, go ahead.
Matt:No, no, i just don't want to forget. You feel like you're running the fucking show. Go ahead.
Jeremy:That's not home, hey, to win, dad and brother fight, well I just, i just want to know did some eat a cookie?
Joe:So Taylor made had to pay Bob Parsons royalties for that Club the first the first iteration.
Aarik :Yes, okay, you got sued. They copied it. Okay, i didn't know that. So that's, do we need to get back into who I used to work for and what happened, or we leave that alone.
Joe:No, i'm just saying it's, you know, i was just curious. All right, dad, go ahead. Thank you, thank you.
Aarik :Thank you. Wait to start calling you dad Oh.
Matt:Stop it, all right. So I my question, that I'm gonna come, we're gonna come, we're gonna take a little Weatherbreak here with Matt gontaric, but I want to know How the future of golf is going to change with All the stuff that has changed the last year's. What's next? So let's, let's. Before that, let's get some weather.
Matt Gontarek:What's up guys? Mac, on talk of the chasing daylight podcast, hope everybody had a great round of golf at the Prim Valley Golf Club. If you played with the Vegas golf network last weekend Looked awesome, good results and overall a great event. Thanks again, matt, for putting that on. Always a great time. Looking forward to this upcoming weekend. We're looking at clear skies and sunshine and temperatures are back in the triple digits. So if you're sick of the heat already to start July, it's only gonna stick around For that much longer. So the middle of July looks pretty warm for us. We're going 105 on Saturday, kicking it up to 106 on Sunday. So I'd say early in the morning or later in the afternoon is your best bet to get out and try to just avoid some of the big summertime heat.
Matt:Eric picking his nose live on YouTube. I love it. Do it, it well from.
Jeremy:We haven't had a hundred degree weather in almost 300 days to 180 degrees. So because you have the guy from Dallas on.
Matt:Well, we'll get to Prim Valley in Las Vegas National and 112 degrees. We played golf and over the weekend here in a few minutes. So physical fitness and Training, strength training, mobility training all this stuff has changed the golfer. They're stronger, their fitter, they diet, they strength train, they. They are no longer John daily pounding diet, coax and bourbons at the turn and smoking heaters in the fairways. Well, some of us are, but It's, it's now. If you want to compete, you, you have to be physically in shape. Track man foresight, all the, all the analytics, all the data. You know it changed baseball when guys figured out that if you launch the ball at a certain angle, at a certain speed, you're gonna hit a home run. So these guys train to try to get that launch angle. Same thing with golf. They're optimizing their numbers, unreal to where the window for X, the window for excellence, is so small now, because they know exactly what they have to do in order to get the most out of the golf clubs. So and now, with all the equipment, the, the ball I don't want to talk about the rollback, you guys covered that last week but with all the equipment and reaching the maximums that they can, you know What's next? what is? How is the game going to evolve from this to You know, five years from now, what are we gonna be talking about? Who's that question to you? you're in.
Aarik :You're in the industry more than us, so Not a big fan of your tone, but I'll answer the question. No mess with my tone away. And we, to an extent I Don't think we can talk to one with talk about one without the other Meaning. Yes, we talked about rollback last week or whatever, but it's like, dude, like if you did 30 pass me to roll back, the golf ball doesn't matter. Second, it doesn't pass. Like, if you hit Sand waging in the hole and I hit eight iron, you hit eight iron, now I hit five, just what it is. So if they want it to be more competitive, then you just. I mean, what's one of the hardest golf course to play on tour is Riviera, right, like, so It doesn't have to be 7800 yards, you have to make the guys think you do green complex. You make the fairways narrower and like people, and that's it's one of the things that like bothers me living here, because people bitch about Craig ranch because they play that before the PJ championship Golf course is too easy, it's an ego boost. They just bang it and hit it far and that there's no penalty. Bubble boss. Well, that's weird, because they just played TPS. What is it? the travelers go rocket mortgage, or even the travelers? Yeah well, they were 21 under after three day And nobody bitched about it being easy, but you come here and they're like, well, it's too easy. Like what's the? there's no measuring stick, right, like There's no line in the sand and like that's the problem. So if you want to make it harder, to make the rough high I'm not saying Make it US open is not what I'm saying but if you make the fairways narrower and you make the rough higher and it makes a Precedent on hitting the fairway, or if you don't want to hit it, parkour, i can grow the rough at 290 and everybody goes to the same spot And you wedge it and you make a putt like it's, it's not rocket science, like it's actually very easy, and they just won't do it. Yeah, and that's the other problem, and they just won't do it. Yeah and that's the other part that bothers me is like when you get Jack Nicholas And these guys bitching about these guys in the golf ball too far. Well, it was cool when he was doing it in 1984 and nobody was was yeah, correct, and he was 40 yards of everybody does the greatest thing ever because it's an advantage. Now He's like the golf ball goes too far. Dude, relax, yeah, like Which, like you can't have it both ways, right, like, just just pick a side and just freaking, be an adult.
Jeremy:I think courses need to start installing lava rock, because I had a hell of a time.
Aarik :Lava rock, isn't that on the part three at bears, best that black rock?
Joe:No it's black sands like sand Yeah that's not a lot of work, but I apologize, i'm leaving down where?
Matt:where do you see the next Evolution?
Aarik :of the game. I would love to give an answer. I have no idea. I think the only way you change it as far as what everybody is complaining about, I think you improve it by maybe cutting the fairway off at a number, if you will, and making it narrower, And that allows your wedge to beat my wedge, not your sand wedge to beat my six iron, if that makes sense Yeah, i mean, i don't know, of course you've me, you can you.
Matt:So, would you think, golf course set up, then What would we be talking about? 1000% Yeah, 1000% Okay.
Jeremy:I think they're gonna have to do something. Shot clock, Shot clock.
Aarik :But it's just but it's a thing, though, like they're not shooting 59 every week.
Matt:No right.
Aarik :Yeah, people aren't shooting 56. Like it's not happening right.
Speaker 3:Like I don't understand there's a difference.
Aarik :But what I need, but I what's really important is people need to understand how hard it is And then, when you get hot, how you can ride that streak. But it's even on the PGA tour. It's a very, very fine line, from 64 to 79.
Matt:Yeah, even at that. Tony Fienow, this last week's a great example. When's the tournament last year? shoots even par over two rounds and misses the cut.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Matt:It's. golf is hard, even when you're really good at it.
Joe:And here's the thing about all those naysayers like oh, the course is set up too easy, like they're all playing the same fucking course. Man, they literally are all playing the same place. Like yeah, you're gonna get variables.
Aarik :And it depends on your teeth.
Joe:Yeah, you're gonna get variables in the weather, of course, but that's the luck of the draw. I mean, what can you do about that? You can't you? I mean, what are you gonna throw some crop desters up there?
Matt:You cut into a 54 hole tournament and you have everybody start a shotgun.
Joe:Come down live, yeah, but that's the thing I know, that's where you're going. Everyone is presented with the same opportunity. So it's like it's not agreed. It's agreed. It's not the golf I mean. The course is going to be the course, the score is going to be the score. Like, yeah, do and is it? is it? we don't like seeing scores that low, or do we want to see it harder? And does that fit into the situation of, like the US Open, where we want to see it harder, or the PGA Championship, where we want to see it harder? Does that take away from the majors in that situation, like everyone's playing the same shit, man, like correct, it is what it is.
Aarik :You've said like legit, you've said nothing wrong because I lived it. Like the first time I went to Q school I shouldn't have went because I wasn't good Like I'd shot 9 million every day. The second time I went, in Canada, I think I shot like 84 or 5 with rental clubs because they didn't send my golf clubs.
Matt Gontarek:But that was a very Canada No, true story.
Aarik :I was really, really proud of like the 72 or 4 or whatever I shot like the next three days, Like I was super proud of like well, why didn't you do it in the park? Because you play golf, the shoot in the park Like dude, like you don't get it. You don't understand how hard the golf courses is. You don't understand how everything's set up. Speaking of how I beat you by a million and I just suck.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and that's the adaptation of the golfer.
Aarik :Yeah, if I shot 73 when I'm in tournament mode and I beat you by 10, you're going to shoot 200 on that, golf course.
Joe:Another thing is these guys are changing elevation, these guys are changing weather. Correct, they're trading every week, Every day every week They're in a different spot Different greens, different grass greens. Yeah, that's the ninja shit of a golfer. Like you are adapting to your situations like that, like on the spot 1000% And it makes the run that Tiger put on that much more impressive, That much more impressive. And people are like what is Tiger?
Aarik :And I'm like dude, stop, you're not. Like don't, he doesn't count. No, yeah, can't even include him. He's super natural.
Joe:And it also depends on the caddy that you got. Like, how much work do they do on the front end to make sure?
Matt Gontarek:that you are set up Joe.
Speaker 3:You were out of retirement now, right.
Joe:Joe, I have a question.
Speaker 3:Uh-oh.
Aarik :Was Tiger Woods a sole golfer?
Joe:No, tiger Woods is not a sole golfer.
Matt:He's not a sole golfer at all, do you?
Aarik :know how I was going to ask. Not even close. That's why I didn't want me to ask it.
Matt:Hey, speaking of tough conditions, i want to give a shout out to Yana Wilson, henderson's own Yana Wilson, number one junior golfer in the world, who won the women's junior. Yeah, did that, she won the women's junior amateur. So she got a spot in the women's US Open which is taking place this weekend at. Pebble Beach.
Matt Gontarek:Did you see the video?
Matt:Did you see the video her dad posted? She's hitting an iron out of the rough and completely whipped, just went right underneath. I did not see that, no, and I was like, wow, and he's like, yeah, he goes. Conditions are tough. Yeah, i can't really see it.
Aarik :I don't understand. I'm not comparing myself to her, but I played with Manette Payud in the last tournament and I think I topped a three with all the rough like 12 yards.
Matt:So it's going to be a wish her success. You know it's an amazing accomplishment for her. So everybody tune in this weekend and watch some of that.
Aarik :I'm not sure what's in the shin Vegas local. She's there.
Matt:I'm not a fan of Pebble Beach as a major venue, i think it's a great golf course. I just don't think it's it. I don't know. Let me I'll rephrase that US Open. I don't like the US Open being held there.
Aarik :It's super small. Greens narrow fairway the tarot, the tiny greens.
Matt:I respect that, but it's there's too much Pebble Beach right now.
Joe:There's just we do get it once a year, and then all those years where we three, three in the next 15,.
Matt:They have a US Open there and I think they've been there. No, haven't been there.
Speaker 3:It's on my list.
Aarik :Have you seen in person.
Matt:I just said I've never been there, so relax.
Aarik :I'm asking Chill, chill chill dad.
Joe:Dad chill.
Matt:Have you ever been there? No, have you ever seen it?
Joe:Yeah, Dad, chill, chill. Yeah, dad's in a mode right now.
Matt:No, I definitely want to go and I definitely want to play it, absolutely I just I.
Aarik :I've seen it in person because I felt the exact same way. And you see it in person. You're standing there. My opinion it's a totally different deal. I was very fortunate enough to work the the Poe Beach program. Every year It's different.
Matt:All right, all right.
Aarik :If you like band and dunes, you like Pebble Beach.
Matt:Oh, i know I'm going to love it.
Aarik :Yeah, i just, i just, The time you play Pebble Beach with me, you're going to be a soul golf Jesus.
Joe:Here's the thing, though It's like. It's like banding is like feels underground You said band and know her Banding. Feels underground, Like you know, like dilated people's, like banding is like dilated peoples, and then, like Matt doesn't know about dilated people, i know, but what are you talking about?
Aarik :But Pebble is like.
Joe:Pebble's like I don't know. I mean what's a good, like DOS effects, I guess.
Aarik :I don't know. Stop, let Matt do what he's doing Stop it.
Jeremy:I like where this is going, Joe.
Aarik :This is the way you guys don't let me on the show.
Matt:So hey, let's, let's go a little. Writer cut preview because that's coming up here real soon. So Ricky's play this weekend has got him to the 12 spot. That's who he bumped out. Oh, come on, it's relatively no Close.
Joe:J Zach Johnson And. Thomas coach, that was a joke. I know we saw it last week, eric.
Matt:AJ Scotty Scheffler is holding onto the one spot. Wyndham Clark second. Brooks Kepke third. Xander Shoffley is fourth. Patrick Cantley's fifth max home of six. Those are the locks. The next six will be captain's picks, but they have the rankings and comment on that.
Aarik :Of course, this is going to get me absolutely annihilated, oh okay For what I'm about to say.
Matt:Let me mark the time so I can make a reel about this. Go ahead 105.
Aarik :I got it, dot 11. They're going to get absolutely obliterated. The USA team Yeah, wow, wait. As a, as a, as a, as a, as a, as a, as a, as a. As a, as a, as a, as a, as a, as a, as a, as a, as a, as a, as a, as a, as a, as a, as a, as a, as a, as a As a.
Matt:As a.
Aarik :As a, as a, as a, as a, as a, as a, as a, as a, as a, as a, as a, as a As a As a As a.
Matt:As a, as a, as a, as a, as a As a Man. Neck can't Lee.
Aarik :No next max homo. Yeah, too much weed. Next Keegan Bradley, everybody's captain picked right.
Matt:Yeah, so this is the next 12, keegan Bradley.
Aarik :Nope, to like fiery, like he's gonna threaten to punch the right of the face and something bad is gonna happen.
Matt:Jordan Spieth. Hit or miss more a cow Oh.
Aarik :No, doesn't care. Have no idea how worried about hands.
Matt:No idea how Cameron Young is still in this. Yeah nothing, sam Burns, nope, ricky Fowler.
Aarik :There's, you go, there's. We keep Ricky's your Sergio, if that's fair, right, sergio like shows up like Radra cup. That's Ian polter like he wrecks everybody. See that. I mean, did I say something wrong? like the?
Joe:backbone like yeah, you're 12.
Aarik :I mean Jeremy's giving me a face right now, but I think like I didn't like, why about it?
Jeremy:I, i feel the same. It hurt to hear speed, but I think they're gonna have to invite DJ. I really think so. I Think DJ too much pride They won't do it, i mean, if Keppke if Keppke is gonna be on the team Mate, we'll see. Who knows, if they're even gonna wow, that's gonna go. But if Keppke is correct. I think they need to bring DJ onto the team. I think, that's fair to say.
Matt:All right. So here's the year I think with that layout.
Joe:There's like no fire there, except for Ricky. Yeah, except for Ricky.
Matt:John, john Rom kills it. Rory kills it. Yonik Paul Never heard of him.
Aarik :Don't know that guy.
Matt:Adrienne Maron Maronk.
Jeremy:He's a stick nothing, victor Perez.
Aarik :Well he's on TV. He should be a stick, Yeah.
Matt:Victor Perez.
Aarik :Kills it. That's the French guy.
Matt:Yep, adrienne, oh, take what, oh, take what. Yeah, take you. Yeah, fleawood, yep, that's okay. So that's Adrienne. Otago is the six. So then you got Fleawood Lowry, jorge Campillo, yoast Luton, pablo Larazaba and Thorbjorn Olson.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Aarik :Not a lot of live euro action going on here, yeah, and the and the euro team screams Beat you in the dirt.
Matt:This would be this would be the biggest upset, i Think in America wins, or Europe, if Europe wins as far as like what everybody is saying and they're in Rome, correct, they're in Italy, yeah.
Joe:Italy.
Aarik :Yeah, get ready for it. I.
Joe:Could see. I could see the, the euro.
Matt:Are close. Some other way harder than the US team well, they always do, they always do yeah. They, they check their egos at the door and the USA team brings them to the tee.
Aarik :Yeah, but with some straights it seemed like they really vibe, and what caused more separation this year between the Americans was living the PGA tour, so as much as the Americans were already not connected, it just got worse.
Joe:Yeah, I think I think whistling straights They really like came together as a team like real VGK vibes. but uh, I Don't say VGK vibes Yeah he did
Aarik :my man Yeah of course.
Joe:They just came together as a team like did what they needed to get done, like they were vibing.
Aarik :So I have a question for you, jk. Yeah, easy there, they made me go change hats. If you put your top VGK guys together, including me getting to practice in caring, how do we do against the writer team?
Joe:I came as a straight What I'm putting my VGK players against the writer cup team, the Euro writer cup team back from right field.
Aarik :But like, but we get to practice. I can't even say I'm sorry man.
Joe:So I hear, I see I hear Mike Amadio as a stick.
Matt:That's why I hear they're all they're all sticks because they can play hockey. I.
Joe:Think, i think Amadio and white cloud are probably the most dedicated to the game of golf stick.
Matt:How about? how about peeler double?
Joe:dip and sixes sixes.
Matt:We can try. Yeah, hit him up, peeler. Double dick, double dick, whoa whoa.
Speaker 3:I gotta go guys hit the mute button there, sorry, sorry didn't.
Matt:Didn't mean that Looks like we lost Joe. Tell there, he's back. Okay, no, peeler, peeler double dips peeler double dips, the Zen sixes.
Joe:I.
Jeremy:Really is.
Aarik :So well.
Matt:I know why he hits it 330 yards now.
Joe:I got to zoom in.
Aarik :So before the last VGK event I go the gas station VGN?
Matt:or was this before a hockey game?
Joe:I can't wait to see you, so I get punch you in the throat.
Aarik :You guys are so judgy.
Speaker 3:Sorry.
Joe:How many death row selsers are you in?
Aarik :right now. No, i'm drinking muck and so I Go my zin's out. I go the gas station, i'm going to, i'm waiting on Matt. I'm not waiting on him, but he's picking me up. We're like we don't have zin, we have on coffee, and she was like you want two or six. I'm like I'm a gangster. You give me six Death row. You know when you're cold and your teeth chatter. Rob said he could hear me vibrating.
Speaker 3:Dude people. People should not.
Matt:People should not use that stuff. It just shouldn't be. You stop, just stop.
Aarik :Well, I'm okay at two and four. That's fixed is like I'm.
Speaker 3:That's right I wouldn't bought more.
Aarik :And they were like what do you want? I was like you yeah, sir.
Joe:Yeah, is there one, do you?
Speaker 3:have a little. Take one of those thirds.
Jeremy:No, it starts at two. Start buying him a, cut him half, and so in them clothes.
Matt:So my own zen patches looking at seamstress on craigslist.
Aarik :I've never hummed it before inappropriately.
Joe:You, the seamstress, looking on craigslist I.
Jeremy:Think, just go sideways right, okay, many dollhouse, matt, have you seen?
Aarik :the putter. Do I need to put her for you?
Matt:I saw it, you showed, you sent me pictures Oh.
Jeremy:I think.
Aarik :I think you said it.
Matt:I think you sent it to trade and you sent it to Julian, then you sent it to me. We were all playing at the same time and I was like, wow, i see where I am in the in the. Yeah.
Joe:The totem pole higher Yeah right.
Jeremy:Are you using it in the bag now?
Aarik :Yeah, I was taught by the same guy. I would have not use it I.
Jeremy:Just didn't know if it was like hanging on the wall or if it was actually.
Aarik :No, it's. No it's being used.
Joe:That's what it is, but I have to play golf to use it, though, so once a year.
Aarik :So the last. So let me get this correct the VGN Golf tournament is literally the last round of golf I played.
Jeremy:Wow, that's what everyone says. That works in the golf industry though.
Aarik :Yeah, yeah, i have no desire to play golf like I legit could care less if you guys are playing golf. Can you invite me? I would love to play golf. Left me setting up golf like it's not gonna.
Jeremy:Like I'm not playing. Are you playing when you're coming?
Aarik :No he's not bringing no. No because I don't land till like 8 30 Saturday.
Jeremy:But the next one you will.
Aarik :So literally my whole day is only Sunday, and then I have to be at the airport at like 3 30 Monday so no, mm-hmm, so we're going to barcode, shout out barcode.
Speaker 3:That could be a good sponsor that would be a fan of Cody at barcode the day Super simple, even for me.
Joe:Well, it's 79, 10,. This is July. Good Lord All right back to golf, all right back to golf.
Matt:Sorry did what? did you guys pay attention at all to Tommy cool or cool, or have he say his name? The Monday qualifier that was ripping it 330 all over the golf course finished had a putt to finish top four and get Temporary status on the PGA, but his top ten finish got him into this weekend event.
Joe:I didn't watch much due to the tape delay. Yeah, that was trash.
Matt:Yeah, it was really stupid, but I was driving as most of it was happening. Well, we saw, we know Ricky won at at national and then I got home and just in time to You know, watch the last nine holes. So it was kind of fun to watch because I didn't see any of it while we were playing speaking of real quick.
Joe:I love Ricky's reaction to this win. I love how he just looked over.
Matt:This pose was amazing. It was great.
Joe:Yeah, it was an epic pose and just so we're all clear, like totally caught this last week. I just want to say that you did.
Matt:I knew you're gonna go there spirit. I heard it, i will send you?
Aarik :do you guys know Wayne birch, the caddy on tour? No, that guy who's 50% owner of trap golf.
Matt:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. you know, you know, we know drain Oh wait, no drain, oh.
Aarik :So if you guys haven't seen it, get on his. Here you go Shout out way, no drain, oh. Get on his Instagram and he's on the green showing the video when he made the putt for to get in the playoff. Mm-hmm and then they putt when he won. So it's kind of like at Ricky's back, on Ricky's left shoulder, he's kind of at his like 10 o'clock The video of, of him making that putt and then he has a picture of him hugging Ricky after the wind. So like I think it's pretty cool to see.
Joe:Who's Wayne for Wayne cadding for now Is he jump All over dude, he's killing it with the apparel.
Aarik :So yeah, he kind of picks bags when he. I don't know if he can, but I would assume, knowing him like, he's very able to kind of pick his bag to an extent.
Joe:But so was he, was he with, had her very good Was he with had one this past week, i don't know.
Aarik :I didn't even ask him.
Joe:He's a player man, hey.
Matt:So I know Joe likes to say that he's been on the Ricky Fowler bandwagon, but I I was picking him to Wayne back in early January. So that's that predates your last weekend pick.
Joe:So well, you know I had already used them in the one and done so. I couldn't pick him this week, so I had picked them previous. Did you pick him this weekend? No, i didn't done, did you already?
Aarik :I think it's great. I used not competitive. You guys are.
Matt:Yeah, well, the I took a tumble with this week because Joe had Ricky Fowler and he won Jeremy had had. When he got second place, i had Tony Fina. He didn't make the cut.
Aarik :I think my friend Joseph Bramlett.
Matt:I don't even know if he showed up. He didn't make the cut either. So Joe has leapfrogged me and he is now in second place. I am now a thousand points behind Jeremy, and Joe was 920 points. So yeah, there's that, and then, in the one and done, we still need to find out how we're determining who what we're going on. I've been doing it as their two totals against our two best totals, and Right now that has them at 18 million dollars earned and we were at 15.8. So we're almost two and a half million behind, when a few short weeks ago We were just a couple hundred thousand. So did not help that they had Ricky Fowler and we all picked people that didn't make the cut, correct, yeah, so yeah me. That is that, and then I do want to get into a couple things about the VG event. I Know the greens weren't exactly the best. Favs has told us that, talking with them, they what? No, he's gonna be back in a minute, okay nothing continue. Okay, the, the, the water issues have been resolved as far as the amount of salt that was in the water and was destroying the greens. The greens were really good, the parts that had grass, and that's the sad part, because there are way too many spots that don't have grass. I had somebody or I think it was Rob Chapman sent me a video of a course in Australia, that's south of Perth, where they Yeah, it's all dirt, oh, yeah, it's all dirt greens where you, you flatten out, you roll your line to the to the hole. Okay, pxg fanboy, so they're not the worst. So they're not the worst greens in the world, but they were pretty bad. But I do want to thank everybody that made it out there. I know we had quite a few, actually the most we've ever had as far as players withdraw from an event the day before But I do want to thank all those guys that did come out and tee it up. It's a you know little drive out of town and it was 108 degrees with no wind, so, and I think it was the tightest, like dispersion of scores, oh yeah. There was nobody that like ran away with it at all. Everybody each. I think Mike Tyson was the only one that had a healthy lead, and it wasn't even a lot, because he was going up against some guys with some really high indexes. So Oh, there it is. What shaft is in that? I don't know.
Speaker 3:I don't know, I don't know.
Joe:I mean, okay bro, It's just the shaft He's probably painted. Oh Wow.
Matt:So yeah, it was a fun event. I again I said thank you everybody for coming out. The next one on the schedule is a two-day out at legacy, which I don't know. If everybody knows, legacy is under new management. As far as the golf course goes, the same group, a Western group that runs brevier, is now in charge of legacy. I've been talking with them and there is some, some good things coming for legacy. So that is one of my favorite courses in town that gets really shit on and Not saying it's undeserving, they have not been doing well financially water, a lot of struggles with that golf course but hopefully western can come in there and turn some things around, because it's a damn good layout. It's a fun golf course and I think, with great conditions good conditions, um it can be a lot of fun. Don't know if we'll have that in three weeks, but I drove by earlier and look decent.
Joe:I saw eight to 17 From the from green valley park.
Matt:Yeah.
Joe:Yeah, decent, it looked pretty good.
Matt:Um, so that'll be a fun event. Two-day or summer sizzle It's. Uh, it's our first two-day event that we've ever hosted in the vgn. More points for this one, and, uh, we're gonna figure out some ways to keep the guys interested inside games So they participate yes, have a question Okay.
Aarik :You guys laughing at um What?
Matt:is there anything in september that you're doing, sir, but maybe somebody should be aware of coyote springs major september 16th.
Aarik :Okay, asking for a friend.
Matt:Okay, let that friend know it's gonna be a good one.
Aarik :You get one of the uh does that something you have to qualify for? is that something you can pay to be in, pay to be?
Matt:in majors are open to everybody. That's a member, of course All right, i think I was asking. Uh, that's everything I got on my list, except for the odds for, uh, the john deere, it's the tractor tournament. Zach Johnson best team markers in the uh in the business.
Joe:Yeah, Zach Johnson. This was a jt post in last year, right? Yes, it was Zach Johnson luke list uh To rate.
Aarik :Oh, that's a good one. He wins there all the time. I'll run through real quick, All right run him down.
Joe:Danny McCarthy and Russell Henley are 14 to 1, cam young, 16 to 1. Adam hadwin, uh Ludwig ebburg 22 to 1, adam shank, eric Cole 25 to 1, taylor more 28 to 1, along with keith mitchell, chris kirk, the miliana griot 30 to 1. Alex molly Shamus, uh steven eager, nick taylor 35 to 1, taylor montgomery, uh young hun on, patrick rogers 40 to 1. Jt post in 45 to 1. Uh bo hustler and besaden hoot, uh substraka 50 to 1, chez revie 60 to 1, sam rider 90 to 1, actually 100 to 1. Uh zack johnson is 125 to 1 and uh ryan moore 175 to 1. Shallow true links where scott piercy 225 soul golf. Bro, you don't know anything about it. I don't all the way at the bottom andrew landry, ryan armor harrison and endicott uh, caren pursey and satoshi kadiara corner diara.
Matt:All right, uh, big winner, joe Yeah man, i'm, i, i got the podium. I do want to say the sound effects for the cash register last week highly highly disappointing.
Joe:We didn't have the board, bro, that was all we have.
Matt:Jane, you had the board.
Aarik :Did not use it. All right, maddie. maddie, i'm the guest. What's your pick?
Joe:No, no, no, no I get first, because I go get first, because he a j a j chill. I've the winner from last week.
Aarik :I cannot wait to see you. I got the fucking podium bro. I can't wait to see you chill brother, i'm a pretty good putter.
Jeremy:I'm a damn good putter.
Joe:Uh, I think I'm gonna try and go for some bubble points and uh, I think I'm gonna go a million agree on a 30 to 1. Really the arching time.
Matt:It's like the third time he's picked him this year.
Jeremy:He's a reliable pick, though. Yes, yeah.
Matt:All right, jeremy. Uh, second place. I know I'm not a chalk.
Joe:I'm not a chalk person. Okay, i like to try and go deep. We're lucky, ricky was over 10 to 1 last week, so anything to want to say to you right now.
Aarik :Let's let jeremy say what he's gonna say, because what i'm gonna say is He's gonna be super inappropriate.
Jeremy:Uh keith mitzol. Keith mitzol is 20 to 1.
Aarik :Dude k mitzhe hits it 9 000 yards.
Joe:What was his oddest run course?
Aarik :Uh 28 to 1 28 1 jeremy, you ever seen keith mitzhe? keith mitzhe hit a golf ball in person.
Jeremy:No, dude, actually I think I did it.
Aarik :Shiners, i think I did like you talk about a golf ball going away quickly, like Yeah, I like his swing.
Matt:Okay, when I? or is it do you?
Aarik :like his swing, or is this davis love the davis love the third? uh, visors, yeah, i like the slacks the sands of belt, slack the crease.
Joe:The start the pleats.
Matt:Gotta have the pleat guy and then pleats big pleats guy. Okay, uh, i'm, i'm taking. Uh, i watched this kid play this last weekend and he's super freaking crazy talented. Uh, joe mentioned him in the odd front down, which I was surprised because I didn't think he would want to. Uh, ludwig aberg.
Speaker 3:Oh, the new college sensation college, yep college sensation. a row 22 to 1.
Matt:You should see his his record from last year in college.
Matt Gontarek:It's like when?
Matt:when? when two three, when two, one when just ridiculous.
Aarik :So that's the epitome of somebody who just plays golf. Yeah.
Matt:Yep, yep, all right, uh, guest, because you really came through with the pig last week. I really appreciate that.
Joe:Thank you, Wow I can't wait to see you more. Karate, chop, throw.
Matt:Oh.
Aarik :Uh, eric, oh, Hope wrong, but no.
Speaker 3:Really.
Aarik :Really.
Joe:I like it. That's bobo points too. It's 25 to 1. That's bobo point. Uh, that's wicked, mean maddie.
Matt:Uh, that's what I do.
Joe:Can't wait to see him even more.
Jeremy:Huh Yeah, i'm gonna hug you so tight. He's wearing, like the he's wearing the old man foot joy shoes Like the running.
Aarik :He wears the shoes of like a seven-year-old.
Jeremy:Super weird and never seen a pro. Wear those.
Matt:I was really surprised. Where, oh how?
Aarik :do you wear seven-year-old men shoes and joggers?
Matt:Yeah, I was really surprised when harry left sounds like chris torres g4. Shut up, chris torres. This is birthday today. Oh yeah, happy birthday.
Joe:So Happy birthday chris torres. I have a birthday, chris.
Matt:Yeah, I have a question because I have all you dumb dumb's here at the same time.
Aarik :Am I gonna see you guys sunday or monday or what's the screw? I thought we.
Joe:I thought we handled this air a j. I'm relax on monday.
Aarik :I'm just asking you a question. I'll do that, see, your question Are we going to bar go?
Matt:It's to be so aggressive. I'll go sunday and monday. How about that?
Joe:you just put up a cot there and just be like.
Aarik :I'm here between Sunday and 8am can I just turn myself off now? and how does this work?
Matt:hey, since everybody wants to go Monday. You and I can go Sunday and talk to Cody about you know some business oh well, i will send him a message yeah yeah and then we can go.
Aarik :Yeah, i'll trick. Yeah, yeah, joe knows about that.
Matt:Yeah, i'll trick yeah get out my face hey so you said, as Jeremy, if you ever seen Keith Mitchell hit a ball and it like leaves boom, boom. So what is, in your opinion, the most impressive swing that you have seen, as far as swing in the ball leaving, because mine will surprise a lot of you.
Aarik :To me it's different. Like the best. In my opinion, the best golf swing ever seen in person was Grant weight oh interesting hands down now as far as the golf ball going away quickly. I mean, joseph is, joseph is impressive, but dude Keith Mitchell hits that golf ball and it looks like it's gonna touch the sky and it just it doesn't come down until it's like 330 over there, jeremy you got one.
Jeremy:I've seen Jack Nicholas hit a ball on to talking about 86 home but that was, that was weird, that was, that was like not the same Jack Nicholas. He was older, correct, so went to Honda I probably went like 280 I don't know.
Aarik :Palmer off the deck at Bay Hill was in Jack, hit it to 80 was.
Jeremy:It was in Mesquite was in Park City yeah, that makes sense and then his cat he told me that my, my, 4000 tag on my fanny pack was flapping so I have to like put it in the pocket because it was making noise.
Aarik :Jeremy, focus, don't get distracted by me. What's the best you've seen?
Matt:don't get distracted by what's the best you've seen he said his fanny pack tag was flapping in the wind and disturbing Jack.
Jeremy:That's hilarious maybe I mean Tony. I've seen Tony hit on multiple occasions. He can smash yes, probably.
Joe:Joe, yeah, i was gonna say pro probably a mr Salt Lake Tony himself, not a pro Daniel Hodges the ball well, dude rips it, this just pierce. No, yes, oh, this guy this guy can play in the 37 mile an hour winds into your face and just pierce it yeah it's.
Matt:It's so fun to watch. I love watching Dan hit the ball, but so Tony.
Joe:I would say Tony. Tony is because it's just like short stack, like welcome to I hop. Like you know, grab your knife cutting, cutting mine mine will surprise you.
Jeremy:I mean I've seen.
Joe:Can I guess it? oh yeah, go ahead number 15, las Vegas National Freddie couples cut in the corner.
Matt:I was gonna say very all, but nope, joe, it gives me shit, cuz I tell the story every time. A national, every time we go to this whole.
Joe:I remember last 14 years old last time no, i was shut up.
Matt:One day I'll tell you I saw ready couples I saw with person. It was impressive it was impressive no links.
Aarik :Black cat barefoot both way I could say Tiger Woods, cuz I don't, but I don't think it's fair. Yeah, that's him.
Matt:That's why I take him out of it. No, mine is Tommy Ganey. Tommy to gloves Ganey. That guy absolutely crushes the golf ball. I know he's back and forth between cornfairy and playing in some pga events, but back in the day after he left big break and and and got on some events and he played in the Shriners one year and and I. It just is a completely different sound when he hits ball it's unreal unreal.
Aarik :You know why it's a different sound because it's painted chef it's got speed foam in the head and not cuz I built all of his golf, but oh and you can't see it. But this is much lower you need to change that AJ to.
Joe:EP, bro epoxy.
Matt:No, it's called right, that was terrible. It was awful that dad was. That was we just lost four subscribers on YouTube did you ever like?
Jeremy:prank a tour player and just feel their entire driver with hot melt? huh, just fill the entire empty head of their driver with hot melt instead of the so tour player, no, but we I've done it for like training aid.
Aarik :Now I did wow. So my boss knows I did this. So my boss at the time I would get irritated because he'd wait till the last minute and be like I need you to build this stuff I do. That's cool. But like I have to deal with like people who are on TV, i'll play golf tomorrow, do it. I'm like cool. So I bent his pitch and wedge and nine iron, the same loft. I bent his eight iron and seven iron the same long. That's a seven iron, do the set and all of his hybrids. I put all the rat glue in the heel and the next one goes in the toe, next one goes in the heel, the next one goes and he couldn't figure out was flying greens and couldn't anything straight and I think.
Matt:I'm like, of course, that he lost like a grand.
Joe:Oh, did he find out?
Aarik :yeah, i told yeah, and then I don't know what happened. I do I'm ever to get fired, but but yes, i've done it okay, i think we've gone on long enough sorry Matt the bore. No, it's not boring me see these guys.
Matt:This is the the fun part. These guys get to go good night, and then I have to sit here and do it tomorrow morning. You're fine. I know I the holiday. You're making me work on a holiday. That's not nice.
Aarik :I gotta work tomorrow work on a holiday it's a job 16 here and I'm happy to be talking with you. Handsome faces.
Matt:I'm sure the vodka had a lot to do with it not a fan of your tone. I'll have some more all right, joe, take us home yo.
Joe:Thanks for tuning into another exciting episode of the chase and daylight podcast, eric. Mr mr AJ Greenley joined us this evening. We just found out that his middle name is James duh and that shafts are painted different things, if you are into marketing and all that shit. But thanks for tuning in. We'll be back next week. Shout out, jeremy, with the black rock hat or black black desert fn3p. Thank you always. Vgk, all day, of course, still waiting on my jack Ikel Funko pop, send that shit for his. VGN. That too. He's lost a lot of Kirkland vodka for mr AJ Greenley, but we're still here for you. Hope you enjoyed this episode. We'll be back next week, as always, dad's home. So we are one big family. We'll see you later you.
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