June 4, 2025
329: From Michigan Golf Trips to Scottie's Dominance
Send us a text Have you ever made a simple equipment mistake that cost you 15+ yards? That's exactly what happened to our host, who discovered his woods were a full inch too short—a reminder that even experienced players can overlook the basics. This revelation is just one highlight from an episode packed with authentic golf insights from players who live and breathe the game. The journey begins in Michigan, where Dan takes us through his golf adventure at destinations like Pilgrim's Run and...
Have you ever made a simple equipment mistake that cost you 15+ yards? That's exactly what happened to our host, who discovered his woods were a full inch too short—a reminder that even experienced players can overlook the basics. This revelation is just one highlight from an episode packed with authentic golf insights from players who live and breathe the game.
The journey begins in Michigan, where Dan takes us through his golf adventure at destinations like Pilgrim's Run and Bay Harbor. His vivid descriptions of bent grass greens, dramatic elevation changes, and even swarms of pesky midges paint a complete picture of what makes Michigan golf special. The genuine enthusiasm in his voice might just move this destination higher on your golf bucket list.
Meanwhile, equipment discussions take center stage as the crew debates whether mini drivers are innovative tools or marketing gimmicks. They also dissect TaylorMade's splashy gold driver release (comparing it to something Austin Powers might use) and the practical appeal of Callaway's new Sandstorm colorway. These conversations offer the kind of unfiltered perspective you'd expect from friends debating gear at the 19th hole.
Professional golf receives thorough coverage too, from Scottie Scheffler's dominance (16 wins with an average victory margin of 3.5 strokes) to the drama of US Open qualifying, where former champions now battle just to make the field. The hosts even analyze the controversy between Jack Nicklaus and Rory McIlroy, offering balanced takes on golf's evolving traditions and protocols.
Whether you're planning your next golf trip, considering equipment changes, or simply enjoy candid commentary on the professional game, this episode delivers authentic insights from passionate golfers who speak your language. Ready to join the conversation?
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00:21 - Welcome and Introductions
02:13 - Dan's Michigan Golf Adventure
10:27 - Jeremy's New York Trip Recap
18:17 - Equipment Talk: Mini Drivers Debate
23:05 - US Open Qualifiers and Pro Updates
30:20 - Scottie Scheffler's Impressive Win Streak
33:51 - Vegas Night Golf with Joe
59:15 - Show Wrap-Up and Final Thoughts
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What is up everybody?
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Welcome to another episode of the Chasing Daylight Podcast.
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I will apologize in advance to everybody trying to get into the Instagram live.
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I'm having a little bit of issues right now.
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It was working and then now it's not, so my apologies for that.
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Hopefully I can get it going here, uh, really quickly.
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So, uh, until I get that going.
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Uh, everybody, thank you so much for tuning in this week's show.
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Uh, we got a.
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There's a lot to talk about.
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There's so much going on.
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Uh, dan is back from michigan with trey joe is in arizona glass clippings.
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He said he may try and hop in with us.
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Uh, jeremy's back after being gone for a couple weeks.
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Welcome back, sir, thank you.
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Thank you, uh.
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And uh, dan is severely jet lagged.
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So, um, we, we had a lot going on this last week.
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I worked probably the most that I've worked for callaway in consecutive days in a while and it just was 110 degrees outside.
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That's all.
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Um, got some golf in and uh, we did a women's day event.
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Shout out cat and uh, cat marks or cat moon.
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Yes, sorry, uh for uh making that event.
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It was.
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It was so much fun, I had so much fun.
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It was an absolute blast.
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Uh, so, but uh, let's see what else we got.
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Um, I had a little staycation in vegas.
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We can talk about that.
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Uh, jeremy's back, uh, oh, and then the little video I posted today about something I tweaked in my bag.
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We'll get to that.
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Uh news, there's a whole bunch of stuff going on the news.
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We'll get that in a little bit.
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But, dan, let's hear about your rota, what took place in michigan, and I'll try and get the ig working all right, um, michigan.
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We flew into, um, uh, grand rapids.
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We didn't get there, we didn't play any golf the first night, but the next morning we had a tea time at pilgrim's run.
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Uh, pilgrim's run was sick.
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Um, I never did find out or actually I did find out who designed it, but the name escapes me at the moment.
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But pilgrims run is is sick.
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It's about a half hour outside of, uh, north of grand rapids.
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Um, really tricky greens, like.
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I feel like those greens are like almost like donald ross inspired, because there's a lot of undulations and some drop-offs and some run-offs.
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Um, but it was an awesome course to start with.
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It was a great condition.
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Um, then the next day we were supposed to play in that tournament, um, at the loop, but when we got up to ross common, we decided to go play on the par three just to screw around, kill some time, and unfortunately, uh, there was this hole and unfortunately, trade stepped in it and tweaked his ankle and it was just a freak thing and it just got to the point where it was swollen enough, where, you know, we had to walk 36 holes and on a, on a sprained ankle which you can hardly put any weight on that's.
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You know it's damn near hard enough to make a golf swing, let alone do that and walk 36 holes.
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So, um, you know, we talked about it and decided ultimately the best you know, just for him to relax and try to heal up.
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There's no point in really trying to damage it further.
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So that day we just hung out, we went to Arcadia Bluffs, had some lunch out there, beautiful golf course, and then the next day Trey soldiered up and we played some golf and he fought through the pain a little bit, but we played um the arthur hills masterpiece, or, excuse me, the arthur hills course and, uh, bay harbor, which is up in boyne city, which is a beautiful area.
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Those golf courses were turned out to be our favorite of the trip.
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The arthur hills course was was sick, it was like a rolling.
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It was like rolling hills, parkland style golf course.
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Pristine conditions, fast greens there were.
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Everything was perfect.
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There were bent grass greens out there.
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So you know, bent grass greens are pretty pretty much perfect putting surfaces.
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And those two courses were probably our favorites for sure, and arguably the best ones that we've played yet in Michigan.
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So that was a lot of fun to get that in.
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And then the final day we went and played treetops, played the RTJ out there, the Robert Trent Jones masterpiece out there and then we played the par 3 golf course Same thing, the RTJ was sick.
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Lots of, uh, rolling, rolling hills I think that's just kind of like.
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You know the topography of that that area, but it's awesome.
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Awesome golf courses, great elevation, um changes in all those golf courses up there.
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We played a couple of the par threes were probably, and par fives were anywhere from 80 to like 120 feet and drop.
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So there was some serious innovation but it was.
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It was an awesome trip.
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It was unfortunate Trey got hurt.
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If you have not played golf in Michigan, it is, it is worth it, it is and it's not very expensive.
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So yeah, michigan is, michigan is is really really nice, especially during the summer, of course.
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I didn't know, you guys were that far North.
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You were like as far North as you can go.
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Yeah, we were almost in the in the upper peninsula.
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I mean, we were just right, right outside of, I think.
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What is it?
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Mackinac, that city?
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That's the last city cross before you get up to the uh, upper peninsula.
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But it was beautiful, it was really really pretty and um great golf courses up there how was the drive from the airport to where you guys went?
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was it good?
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yeah, I mean, it's a lot of like farmland, open, open land.
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Um, once you get out of grand, uh, grand rapids, it's about a two and a half hour drive, I think, to get up to, uh, where our first stop was, um, but yeah, it's, it's easy.
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I mean, gray walls is my dream course.
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Yeah, gray walls looks sick cliff, um, I think that's up in the up, I believe.
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And uh, yeah, that's.
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A lot of people have said that there's the golf's even even better up there, so excited for that.
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And yeah, michigan is.
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There's so much good golf in that Michigan and Wisconsin area, right on that, right on the lake, right there, so got to get out there.
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Was treetops the one that you were sending pictures and you could see the lake?
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Or was that one of the others that you were sending pictures and you could see the lake?
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or was that uh, one of the others?
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You can see the lake, the ones we could see the lake off the side.
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That was um, that was bay harbor.
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Bay harbor has three nines.
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Uh, we played the links and the quarry and, uh, man, those, that is probably the most picturesque course we played.
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It was a great.
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It was a great golf course.
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It had gave me a lot of uh.
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Even trey mentioned it, um, there was, he got um a little bit of uh, I think it was that course he had mentioned.
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He got ban and trail vibes from and I got a little bit of pacific dune vibes because of the holes that are like right on the water and, um, it's not as lengthy as as uh, as Bannon dunes is, but just, uh, just, the holes that are on the water was just very, was very similar to, to um, bannon dunes and it was uh, it was pretty, it was beautiful.
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And you guys got blessed with some great weather, yeah yeah, we got real lucky.
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Um, I know it was scorching here, but uh, I think the first day was a little bit on the cooler side.
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I think the first day was like 64 or something like that, but other than that, you know, we were in shorts and shorts and short sleeves pretty much the whole time.
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The last day was beautiful, it was like 80.
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The one thing I will say about Bay Harbor that sucked.
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Nothing sucked about the course, but they had like an infestation of these bugs.
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They called them like like nymphs or midges or something like that midges and they were fucking everywhere.
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I mean, just, it was like an infestation all over you.
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You're driving, they're flying into your eyes, they're hitting your mouth and shit it was, and it was for like the first five holes.
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So for as beautiful as the golf course was, all those pictures I sent you.
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The whole time trey and I were battling these, fucking these bugs.
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It was gross.
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It was gross.
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There was literally hundreds of them on us and on the golf cart and we were beating them off of us.
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It was.
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It was fucking sick, but a lot of fun beautiful golf course.
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These images are awful, mike from bgc yeah, see, mike knows, mike knows, it's fucked up.
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It was like pestilence.
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That's's how bad.
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It was Like a plague.
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Sorry, ig is just not working.
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I don't know what the hell is going on.
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I don't know, I don't get it.
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I was just going to try and make a post here real quick to let everybody know hey, we're on Facebook and we're on YouTube, if anybody wants to catch the live.
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So, um, that's just really have to find it, or you can listen tomorrow.
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So, either way, I don't know it's because joe's not here, that's.
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I don't know what it is, it's, it's just uh, typically it just pops up and says go live, and it's just not happening.
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So he really clearly there's an issue.
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It's a hundred percent Joe's fault.
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A hundred percent, it's Joe's fault.
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So what's?
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You're definitely fan, fan of Michigan golf, right?
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Oh, hell, yeah, yeah, we were talking about it.
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We were talking about it too, about, like, how much different it is than most of the golf that we've played in our lives.
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And then we just started talking about getting out to Wisconsin and how we're going to have to make cause this is our third trip now for Trey and I actually second trip for Trey and I to Michigan.
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But we keep talking about, like, do we got to get, eventually get to Wisconsin because we got, you know, kohler out there, sand lake, geneva, lockley, I mean just the whole area now is is super, super, super high on my list and, uh, got to get out there soon I think the cool thing about it is like that, all these pockets of golf all over the country, it's so different, like you're not going to see the same style of courses if you travel, you know, obviously in the same geographical areas, but like band, that's kind of its own thing, southern California, that's kind of its own feel, and Pacific Northwest and the desert and Michigan.
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That's what's cool is you can go to different parts of the country and have a completely different type of experience.
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Yeah, and what's really cool about what I noticed and where we traveled there's a lot of land out there.
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It's just open land and you could see where you can have open, like you can make like an open link style course and then eventually take your course into the trees, because there's lots of areas where it's just open rolling long grass areas and then just a little bit further back got groves of forest so you can get like real funky with it.
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And that's kind of like how I got a little bit of uh trails vibes out there in michigan too, because matt, you know, on trails, or jeremy too also, you got you've been out there uh trails like the.
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There's like what three or four holes that start out on the sand Hills and then go right back into the trees, you know it's.
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You can do that in Michigan.
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I mean, granted you're not on the, you're not on.
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You know it's not like a Lynxie style course, but you can make yourself a course where you're like in area with no trees and then all of a sudden you could just carve one right out in the forest.
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That's pretty already planning your michigan next year's trip well, I mean, I haven't really, we haven't really planned a trip next year.
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We really want to try to get out to wisconsin.
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So, mike, if you're listening, still, I'm going to be uh, I'm going to be chatting with you here a lot.
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Maybe we get something squared up and get a trip out there going.
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Yeah, we need to make that happen, yeah.
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Dude Aaron Hills looked incredible.
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Got to be Wisco Dan.
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Yeah, yeah, aaron.
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I mean, it was special Special man.
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That place is so good, so good.
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All right, jeremy, where the hell have you been the last two weeks?
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What's your story?
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I've been in new york no golf, but we we were in new jersey, about five minutes from baltimore.
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Also, I wanted to go over there but I just didn't have time and I probably wouldn't be welcome either.
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Yeah, we were just were just hanging out in New York and it was a family trip.
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So no clubs.
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But I was surprised how many golf shops there are in Manhattan.
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Actually I didn't go to any of them, but tons of simulator bars and fitting studios and golf, huge golf stores.
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But yeah, my daughter's been working at the Five Iron right by the Iron iron building yeah, really yeah, that's where she's been working.
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That's her been her part-time job while she's been down there.
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That's awesome, yeah so, but she just had her last day.
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She comes comes home sunday night, so she'll be home for the summer but she's, she's kind of you know loving hitting golf balls right now.
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So I'm going to get her out on the course because she she swings the club faster than I do, it's sad to say, but to be to be young, athletic and limber, as uh you know, there's benefits to it.
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So, all right, gonna get her out on the course.
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Uh, we said joe's in arizona, um, for anybody that's tuning in that hopped on to uh the youtube that is a whatnot viewer of joe's and he's been pushing the show hard on his uh, on his telecast of the is of his whatnot.
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Uh, thank you so much.
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Uh, you know throw a w in the chat if you're here from whatnot.
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So we know there's a lot of great people on there and that community is crazy, crazy.
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Big Dan, your boy, had his first show the other night.
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I know crazy.
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That was insane.
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Six hours.
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He was on for six hours.
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I couldn't do it.
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He was on for six hours and just selling like from like all the clubs that he goes to, selling all the like top 100, merch, all this.
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I'm just like damn Matt, I didn't realize how much he had.
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I mean, I knew he had a bunch.
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I know he does a lot did.
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He have a lot of stuff and I was like, save some for the other shows.
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You were just throwing up too much fire right now.
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There was so much stuff on there, some really cool stuff.
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I mean I, you know we all kind of don't like repping places we haven't played.
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But you know, when you get some like brooms, edge hats and you know there's that pine valley shirts yeah, just valley, that was nuts wow and he
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doesn't like national golf, like stuff?
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no, he doesn't why doesn't he like pine valley?
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I mean, we're gonna, we're gonna have him on the show and and we'll talk about it, but what uh nuts mike, you don't know what is.
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I think he's being sarcastic.
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He's got to be.
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You have to be sarcastic, right.
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He's a prankster.
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You never know.
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Yeah, you never know that guy.
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He's probably behind the largest WhatNot show on there.
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He's funding it.
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No, dead serious, oh, okay, well, go to the app store on your phone, download whatnot.
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And it's just how it says w-h-a-t-n-o-t.
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It's ebay, but the auctions are live and they end right there and the only people that can purchase are the people that are watching.
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So the bigger audience you have, the bigger chance you have to make more money.
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Smaller audience you know stuff doesn't go, but joe's been doing it for about a month and a half now, got himself up to 1.3 000 followers and, uh, his shows are are rather entertaining.
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So it's uh, but it's dangerous you can score some crazy good deals, though it's dangerous because there is I don't know.
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I don't know how much, how often you guys are on it, but like the people who have all the milwaukee tools, where the hell are they getting all of that?
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yeah because that blows me away.
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They have like a living room full of milwaukee stuff and it's not cheap.
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You know that stuff's not cheap, so I don't know if they're, but there's like 10 of them on there and they're all selling the same stuff and it's it's crazy.
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So if if you're looking for some impact wrenches or nailers, yeah, I just wanted to get a drills vacuum.
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Yeah, I mean crazy deals, wow.
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So, yeah, yeah, but watch for Joe, uh, and bookmark his shows and all that good stuff that goes along with it.
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All right, uh.
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So I posted a video earlier today and I forgot to load it to share it.
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But, uh, it was a swing that I took out at dragon ridge on the range, my three wood, the club that's been hit and miss.
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For me it's fantastic off the tee, but I'm struggling with it off the deck.
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I'm a range hero with it, I smoke it on the range, I get on the course and it's just not the same.
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Um, so I uh, the day before we were at legacy, or no?
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The following day we were at legacy and, um, I was hitting, uh, my seven wood and my five wood and I was not getting the distance that I wanted out of them, like what the hell?
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Why am I not, you know, and I was taking into account the range balls, uh.
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So I went and grabbed one of the the five woods, a regular flex five wood, and I was hitting it 15 yards further than mine.
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I was like what, what the hell?
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So then I go grab a stock seven wood and same thing, 15 yards further than mine.
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And so I'm like you know, I'm like julian, what is going on?
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And so we grab both of them and look, and mine were like an inch shorter than standard length and uh, I knew I, I I thought I was playing them half short, I didn't realize it was the full inch.
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Uh, so, to answer the question I put on there, what did I do after I hit that shot?
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Yeah, I pulled the shaft from that three wood because it is proper five wood length and put it in the five wood.
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And then pulled the shaft from my seven wood, went over to the bin of shafts, found a hazardous shaft that was the length that I needed, put it in and then played Palm Valley on Sunday but got to test it at Angel Park on Saturday and oh, my goodness, what a difference.
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What a difference.
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Wild, wild, wild.
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So even the mayor can fuck up and make mistakes.
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So check your club links, people, check your club links.
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Make sure if you're losing distance, check it and see.
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So that was a big surprise to me because those clubs I bought, they came in standard and I played them, but then when I changed the shafts, I just cut too much off.
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It happens, mistakes happen.
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I'm just going to kill Instagram here.
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All right, dragon Ridge If you get a chance to get out to Dragon Ridge, get out to Dragon Ridge right away, because the greens Dan remember when we played.
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When we played it.
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I remember I remember most of it, yeah, not all of it, uh, the the greens had recently had like a, a thin punch uh, what a time punch, I guess what the terminology is.
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Um, and they, you could tell that they were going to be good in a couple weeks.
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Yeah, they are beyond good.
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We played after our fittings and it was 106 degrees out and it was late in the afternoon, like 4 or 5 o'clock, and I figured they were going to be like what happens at National when the hot sun gets out there.
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